Battle road discussion thread.
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^To add on, you are looking at a back-and-forth retreat. Milotic requires one, and Ray requires 3. Of course, Ray can recover it, but that will take a lot of damage, and will still be very slow. Surely, you aren't going to get a Switch or Warp Point with Claydol. And it's just one draw as well.
fortegoddx said:
For Milotic to stall you need no cards in your hand, how are you going to set up a Ray with an empty hand. would be better just to not use Milotic and focus more on Ray to do 200 with no hand instead of letting your bench get sniped with Milotic active with no hand to protect yourself.
Gliscor said:
X_empoleon_X said:
say i have two lunatones, one blissey, and one banett. that right there is enough discard power to eliminate my hand after using a trainer/supporter. and milotic can do 80 as long as it doesn't get damage. If I can keep recycling my discard pile then i shouldn't have much of a problem.
Milotic has like 90 HP, if you take a prize then the body basically won't work. Also its a very flimsy Pokemon without the body working. Rayquaza would be slow and its Gengar bait since you can only KO with straight damage.
A milotic with unknown g can attack for 80 and not be hit except by bodies and powers.
Rampardos could destroy this deck.
fortegoddx said:
UNTIL YOU TAKE A PRIZE CARD.
I don't see how this part is so hard to understand. if you ever take a prize card you will get KO'ed almost guaranteed.
not only that, but they will just warp point, intimidating roar, bright look, or whatever else up one of your lunatones, bannetes, or regice's and KO that. then you lose your discard power over the course of a few turns, then you die cuz you can't discard as much anymore.
Frodus said:
ok now i get it. i overlooked the fact that when you take a prize you have a card in your hand. sorry.
Yeah... a prize does go to your hand. By that time, you are open. Surely, your opponent is charged up and ready to go.
After having fun with Flash Fire (Luxray GL/Blaziken FB) I'll just have to say this is like awesomenessly good. Really, he definately should be in the BR's if people notice him. It's faster than LuxApe, and does a lot more damage. Plus, you don't have to worry about discard as much because you are working with Blaziken FB, not Infernape 4. A Ninetales tech with Lucario GL makes it spectacular.
I think this should be able to replace, or at least another decent LuxApe.
After having fun with Flash Fire (Luxray GL/Blaziken FB) I'll just have to say this is like awesomenessly good. Really, he definately should be in the BR's if people notice him. It's faster than LuxApe, and does a lot more damage. Plus, you don't have to worry about discard as much because you are working with Blaziken FB, not Infernape 4. A Ninetales tech with Lucario GL makes it spectacular.
I think this should be able to replace, or at least another decent LuxApe.
Yeah, I want to try it out sometime. Blaziken hits harder consistently and does 80 for 1 with E-gain.
Plus you can tech Garchomp to heal a ton.
Plus you can tech Garchomp to heal a ton.
Only for Fire decks. I don't think its worth it in a Palkia deck though.
Ninetales, yes, only for fire decks. You know my current deck Gengar.
Draek, Ninetales does have 80HP. But hey! You don't have to send out Ninetales. It's just an amazing Mewtwo/Dialga/anything thing that has a weakness to a Pokemon in the deck+Lucario GL makes it spectacular.
Draek, Ninetales does have 80HP. But hey! You don't have to send out Ninetales. It's just an amazing Mewtwo/Dialga/anything thing that has a weakness to a Pokemon in the deck+Lucario GL makes it spectacular.
And you do have to send out Dialga G? Dialga G is a for better tech then Ninetales. It's less fragile (come on, 80 HP?) and makes more matchups more favorable than Ninetales will. It does not require you to attack and can attack with 1 Energy. It's searchable with Premier Ball and SP Radar, counts for Power Spray and is PokéTurnable. Now, give me 1 reason why it is better than Dialga? (No, the "type advantage" does not make it better when you have already type advantage to most decks with Luxape.)
In both cases, Dialga G and Ninetales would fear being Bright Looked, and then KO'ed in Luxray w/ Blaziken/Infernape. Both can potentionally KO Dialga G and Ninetales. Where Dialga G would lock all bodies, giving SP's a chance against Mewtwo and heavy body users, Ninetales does have the "type advantage" thing (not counted as reason.) This allows better matchups against Flygon, GG, and other decks in the notable category. Dialga G only has one type, which can't be switched (unless you have Weavile SW.) These days, you don't see Pokemon weak against Metal. The biggest thing is the struggle to get out Dialga G Lv.X. Any players would go ahead and say that you could Poke Turn your active and then Warp Point Dialga G Lv.X out, but that's easier said than done. Surely, Dialga G Lv.X can be Premier Ball'ed and SP Radar'd while Ninetales can't, but again, the struggle to take him out. Once you have a Dialga G Lv.X active, you have to either retreat it out, Warp Point/Switch, or Poke Turn it. Surely, you wouldn't bring him in and immaediately Poke Turn, so that leaves you to retreat. I would waste two energy to get him back, and that could be a wasted two turns of attaching (unless you run Flint's/Bronzong.) This leaves you to Warp Point/Switch. Most players usually run two in their deck, so the odds of it getting out wouldn't be so high (unless you have Claydol.) Ninetales is easier, as you can Roseanne's Vulpix and Luxury Ball/Bebe's Ninetales on the next turn to easily pull out and evolve into Ninetales. In SP's, this can be done with Cyrus's/Claydol. Maybe Ninetales won't get out the turn after Vulpix is played, but is easier to get out than Dialga G Lv.X. Maybe in Luxray with Blaziken/Infernape 4, Ninetales does better. 80HP, I agree, is a downfall.
You don't have to eat Mewtwo, you just have to block it's body. And when you see it's getting played, drop 20 on it and OHKO it when it's active (or 2 Crobat's will work also). And is Flygon that big of a deal? When you shut down their draw with Bright Look and Power Spray they should loose all the steam. And with some 20 dropped here and their you OHKO them. Otherwise just THKO them. And if they can Level X and X-treme attack you, just Get rid of the Level X's, or Bright Look and try to OHKO them in any way.
And Ninetales in't that easier to get out. Ninetales is still les searchable and it's easy to get 2 Energy on Dialga in (atleast) 2 turns (by attachment and/or Bronzong G) if you can't Warp Point. It's also is a great tech against Azelf MT
And Ninetales in't that easier to get out. Ninetales is still les searchable and it's easy to get 2 Energy on Dialga in (atleast) 2 turns (by attachment and/or Bronzong G) if you can't Warp Point. It's also is a great tech against Azelf MT