Counter That Pokemon! - Round 20

RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Well if your counter comes in on the turn it uses Swords Dance, then I guess you have to.

So yeah, assume Swords Dance in your calcs.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Note: Be sure to factor Intimidate into your damage calculations. This thing is 3HKOed by CB Terrakion's Stone Edge, just to give you an idea on how bulky it is.
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Why would we do that? We're switching into it not the other way around. o_O
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Are we assuming that Landorus uses Swords Dance on the turn we switch in every time?
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

The Yoshi said:
Are we assuming that Landorus uses Swords Dance on the turn we switch in every time?
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No. Assume that it does and also doesn't.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Well this is the only other thing I can think of beside from Bronzong if we're assuming Landorus is at +2.

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Quagsire @ Leftovers
Trait: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Nature: Relaxed (+Def, - Spe)
-Scald
-Ice Beam
-Toxic
-Recover

This is a variation of a physically defensive Quagsire. Because of Unaware, Quagsire ignores boosts from Landorus-T, making it much easier to handle. There are two options for this set, and it depends on which move Landorus-T uses on the switch in: Swords Dance, or Earthquake. If Landorus-T uses SD on the switch, Quagsire will 2HKO with Ice Beam while Landorus-T 3HKOs back, making Quagsire reliable. If Landorus uses Earthquake, provided there are no critical hits, Quagsire will use Recover until it has enough HP left to reliably use Toxic on Landorus (so enough HP for Landorus to not 2HKO it). Then it will stall out with Recover until it can comfortably KO with Ice Beam. It's a risky counter, but it seems to work. I might have done something wrong, but I'm confident in my counter I created.

Earthquake on Quagsire = 35.78 - 42.13% = guaranteed 3HKO after SR
U-Turn on Quagsire = 16.75 - 19.79%
Stone Edge on Quagsire = 11.92 - 13.95%

Ice Beam on Landorus-T = 63.04 - 75% = guaranteed 2HKO
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Cresseila @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Nature: Bold (+Def, - Atk)
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Toxic
-Moonlight

Immune to Earthquake, KO's with Ice Beam, sponges Stone Edge pretty well. Great counter in my opinion :]
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

The Yoshi said:
Well this is the only other thing I can think of beside from Bronzong if we're assuming Landorus is at +2.
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You go for Quagsire and ignore Skarmory, Gliscor (no HP Ice) and Rotom-W?

Quagsire is a counter though. But I wasn't expecting it before the things above.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP /184 Def /72 Spe
Nature: Impish (+ Def, - Spa)
Toxic
Protect
Ice Fang
Earthquake

Standard defensive Gliscor, switch in and start using Ice Fang. Doesn't take damage from EQ and U-Turn doesn't hurt. Stone Edge will be your only threat but you can 2HKO with Ice Fang.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

I thought of Skarmory and Gliscor, but I knew Skarmory would be too unoriginal, and I wasn't using Gliscor for the third time in a row. Rotom-W slipped my mind, though. I only said that because I was searching for a counter for a while using the damage calculator, and was not coming up with anything significant.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Skarmory can't really do anything to it unless it has Toxic. Landorus-T can just set up on it.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Whirlwind still doesn't counter it though. It only forces it out. A counter has to be able to eliminate the Pokemon.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Just a thought not for sure if it's correct or not .

How about Physically Defensive Donphan.

Takes it's hits , and can fire back with a x4 Ice Shard with a decent attack stat?

- R-C
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

King Arceus said:
Whirlwind still doesn't counter it though. It only forces it out. A counter has to be able to eliminate the Pokemon.
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Roost stall the Stone Edges, which isn't hard to do because 8PP and Skarm can Roost Stall +4s. Whats Landorus going to do once it runs out of Stone Edges? Can't hit it with Earthquake. +6 U-Turn takes at least 10 hits to KO, and Skarmory can roost. If Landorus can't do anything to Skarmory, then Skarmory has no problem winning.

R-C said:
Just a thought not for sure if it's correct or not .

How about Physically Defensive Donphan.

Takes it's hits , and can fire back with a x4 Ice Shard with a decent attack stat?

- R-C
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Post the full set if you want to get points.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

252 HP / 252 Def Impish Donphan's Ice Shard: 32.6% - 39.1%
Landorus-T's +2 Earthquake: 57.8% - 68.2%
252 HP / 252 Atk Adamant Donphan's Ice Shard: 43.5% - 52.2%
Landorus-T's +2 Earthquake: 78.1% - 92.2%

Donphan is a bad answer.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Kay. I was posting it because I didn't have the oppurtunity to do calcs just thought of it.

- R-C
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 168 HP / 120 SAtk / 220 Speed
Nature: Modest
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Pain Split
- WoW

Stone Edge: 39.2% - 46.3%
Hydro Pump: 108.2% - 127.7%

Never 2HKOs after SR. I'm not going to bother doing +2 calcs. If Landorus-T went for the Swords Dance, you just get a free switchin, outspeed, and OHKO with Hydro Pump. Even if it misses you get a second shot, not like that matters.
 
RE: Counter That Pokemon! - Round 3

A +4 Stone Edge is a guaranteed 2HKO on Skarmory with SR (50.89 - 60.17%), and a +6 Stone Edge on Skarmory with SR in play does 67.96 - 80.23%, so I'm not exactly sure how long Skarmory can Roost stall continuous Stone Edges. Of course you can force it out with Whirlwind, but a counter is supposed to eliminate the threat.

Edit: Brave Bird from a physically defensive Skarm is a guaranteed 2HKO on Landorus-T, without SR or Intimidate.
 
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