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Let's Do the 7th Generation
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RE: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
Sure, if you can get someone skilled in sugimori's style to translate the designs, of course, I thought you meant getting concepts here and giving it to someone to develop.
Incidentally, the "pokemon feel" is not something your idea (or anyone's idea) will have at first draft, it takes a lot of work and time, and that's in part why the reviews are there, "pokemon feel" is not just how they are drawn, but how they are designed too.
Haunted... no cheating.
If you want, breakfast, you can join their group, and help develop those ideas yourself. Just let me know first.
evilpacman said:
Sure, if you can get someone skilled in sugimori's style to translate the designs, of course, I thought you meant getting concepts here and giving it to someone to develop.
Incidentally, the "pokemon feel" is not something your idea (or anyone's idea) will have at first draft, it takes a lot of work and time, and that's in part why the reviews are there, "pokemon feel" is not just how they are drawn, but how they are designed too.
Haunted... no cheating.
If you want, breakfast, you can join their group, and help develop those ideas yourself. Just let me know first.
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I think if someone is willing, we can review their past work (deviant art?) and agree on someone to redraw the designs. Otherwise, we can all continue to develop the designs and go from there.
I think if someone is willing, we can review their past work (deviant art?) and agree on someone to redraw the designs. Otherwise, we can all continue to develop the designs and go from there.
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Or you could rough sketch your designs so you don't feel left out.
Or you could rough sketch your designs so you don't feel left out.
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The designs absolutely MUST be rough sketched.
This is an iterative process; you get an idea, draw it, revise it, add things, substract things, leave it alone, pick it up again, revise it again, change something, change everything, and repeat until you consider it good enough. It's not an easy, or fast process. And the sugimori drawings won't come into play until the designs are finished, so let's focus on the now.
Now, we have nothing. And this is not working well, I just went through turtwig's QT. Not good. And three days between 5 people shouldn't happen.
The designs absolutely MUST be rough sketched.
This is an iterative process; you get an idea, draw it, revise it, add things, substract things, leave it alone, pick it up again, revise it again, change something, change everything, and repeat until you consider it good enough. It's not an easy, or fast process. And the sugimori drawings won't come into play until the designs are finished, so let's focus on the now.
Now, we have nothing. And this is not working well, I just went through turtwig's QT. Not good. And three days between 5 people shouldn't happen.
Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
Im going to drop out of this. Unfortunately i dont have the time to participate as much as i want to. Sorry guys.
Im going to drop out of this. Unfortunately i dont have the time to participate as much as i want to. Sorry guys.
RE: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
Okay, people. NEW RULES
- From now on, we work here.
- The teams are dissolved as of now, we will proceed as planned, but individually.
- Each of us works in several different pokemon and brings them here for advice and revision.
- The QTs will be stored here. If someone feels like making a group for a specific pokemon, they can let everyone know and take a QT to use it, as if it were a separate room, they can also work through PMs.
NOTE: the QTs will be stored in the thread, for everyone to see, so we will know if a group is not working as such.
- Present what you have now, either individually or as a group. If you want to continue as a group, you can do it, as long as you actually work as a group.
- We are not restricted to the starters and the legends now, bring whatever ideas you have and we'll see where that goes.
- Also note that if you bring ideas, you're expected to follow them through in every step, so don't dump everything and then get lost.
Okay, people. NEW RULES
- From now on, we work here.
- The teams are dissolved as of now, we will proceed as planned, but individually.
- Each of us works in several different pokemon and brings them here for advice and revision.
- The QTs will be stored here. If someone feels like making a group for a specific pokemon, they can let everyone know and take a QT to use it, as if it were a separate room, they can also work through PMs.
NOTE: the QTs will be stored in the thread, for everyone to see, so we will know if a group is not working as such.
- Present what you have now, either individually or as a group. If you want to continue as a group, you can do it, as long as you actually work as a group.
- We are not restricted to the starters and the legends now, bring whatever ideas you have and we'll see where that goes.
- Also note that if you bring ideas, you're expected to follow them through in every step, so don't dump everything and then get lost.
RE: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
I'll quote my idea for the legendary Pokemon:
Since I haven't had much feedback on there, I haven't had many thoughts pertaining to anything, but so far this is what I have.
However, I think Psychic- or Ghost- typing would benefit since this is a time travelling-themed game. What do you guys think?
I'll quote my idea for the legendary Pokemon:
Since I haven't had much feedback on there, I haven't had many thoughts pertaining to anything, but so far this is what I have.
However, I think Psychic- or Ghost- typing would benefit since this is a time travelling-themed game. What do you guys think?
RE: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
At first I didn't get the reasoning behind rock, but it does make sense after considering. However, steel seems a little wonky. Sure, the future is presented as metallic and technological, but that is an interpretation; I could say the future involves a wasteland and therefore, the pokemon should be ground. Or that global warming will hit everything and the pokemon would be ice.
What do you guys think?
At first I didn't get the reasoning behind rock, but it does make sense after considering. However, steel seems a little wonky. Sure, the future is presented as metallic and technological, but that is an interpretation; I could say the future involves a wasteland and therefore, the pokemon should be ground. Or that global warming will hit everything and the pokemon would be ice.
What do you guys think?
RE: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
Water, grass, dark, ground, and rock would all be basic enough to represent the past. I'd use phychic for the future though, as psychics claim to see the future.
Seems kind of a hard thing to do with with types alone.
Id do a pair of legendaries, each with multiple formes. One representing the different visions of the future, the other representing the different aspects of the past.
Water, grass, dark, ground, and rock would all be basic enough to represent the past. I'd use phychic for the future though, as psychics claim to see the future.
Seems kind of a hard thing to do with with types alone.
Id do a pair of legendaries, each with multiple formes. One representing the different visions of the future, the other representing the different aspects of the past.
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I think that Steel fits the future, as the future will be full of technological advancements. Though depending on how far into the future the Pokemon from the future is from, I could see Ground/Ghost (or Ground/Dark for a more apocalyptic feel) working for a wasteland, if you want to convey the message of "Be careful with the Earth". From a design standpoint, I'm not sure what it could look like. A wasteland is a very open ended concept, but a wasteland is essential nothing.
I support the idea of a Rock-type for the past. People back then used to believe in Magic, so perhaps Fairy could work as a secondary type (or Psychic, depending on which you feel is more magical). If you're wanting to keep with a "Be Careful with the Earth" message, Grass could work as a secondary type, as the world was very natural before human interference. Such a Pokemon could be some sort of Rock monster covered with foliage.
If you're still taking sign-ups, I'd like to get involved (if you can't tell haha).
I think that Steel fits the future, as the future will be full of technological advancements. Though depending on how far into the future the Pokemon from the future is from, I could see Ground/Ghost (or Ground/Dark for a more apocalyptic feel) working for a wasteland, if you want to convey the message of "Be careful with the Earth". From a design standpoint, I'm not sure what it could look like. A wasteland is a very open ended concept, but a wasteland is essential nothing.
I support the idea of a Rock-type for the past. People back then used to believe in Magic, so perhaps Fairy could work as a secondary type (or Psychic, depending on which you feel is more magical). If you're wanting to keep with a "Be Careful with the Earth" message, Grass could work as a secondary type, as the world was very natural before human interference. Such a Pokemon could be some sort of Rock monster covered with foliage.
If you're still taking sign-ups, I'd like to get involved (if you can't tell haha).
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Of course you can be in.
I like your approach here. A lot. The pasts natural tendencies and the trust of magic in contrast to the presents (that is the future) artificial tendencies and trust of the technological.
We've talked before about making the legendaries the same pokemon but in different periods of its life, because of the time jump. Rock/Fairy and Steel/Psychic, perhaps?
An important thing to figure out after that is: how is the change produced? what prompts the past rock/fairy to become the present steel/psychic? is it just the passage of time? does it adapt to the state of civilization?
I like keepers idea too, that each legendary has forms to show the variants of the future and the past. Really drives home the variability of time. "The paradox pokemon" could be the species.
Who wants to do the actual design of the legends? When I figure out how to get my pictures in picasa instead of google+ I'll present my grass starter to revision, my team worked on it quite a bit.
Of course you can be in.
I like your approach here. A lot. The pasts natural tendencies and the trust of magic in contrast to the presents (that is the future) artificial tendencies and trust of the technological.
We've talked before about making the legendaries the same pokemon but in different periods of its life, because of the time jump. Rock/Fairy and Steel/Psychic, perhaps?
An important thing to figure out after that is: how is the change produced? what prompts the past rock/fairy to become the present steel/psychic? is it just the passage of time? does it adapt to the state of civilization?
I like keepers idea too, that each legendary has forms to show the variants of the future and the past. Really drives home the variability of time. "The paradox pokemon" could be the species.
Who wants to do the actual design of the legends? When I figure out how to get my pictures in picasa instead of google+ I'll present my grass starter to revision, my team worked on it quite a bit.
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What my team was thinking of for starters is an Ancient Chinese warrior panda for grass, to represent the past. Water to represent the present, and Fire Ghost to represent the future.
What my team was thinking of for starters is an Ancient Chinese warrior panda for grass, to represent the past. Water to represent the present, and Fire Ghost to represent the future.
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I think the theme of time would be better suited for the legendaries while the starters carry their own separate theme. I cant think of a time when the starters had the same theme as the legendary Pokemon... seems like it would be redundant. In fact, I think the idea of a common theme for the starters has started fairly recently. Unless I am missing something with the first 4 generations, I am only seeing a theme (loosely based) around the 5th and 6th generation starters.
I would suggest that if we establish a theme, that it should be different than what the legendary Pokemon represent. If we take the route of the first 4 generations, we don't need a theme and that would open up some more flexibility in choosing the starters from different teams that submit them.
I think the theme of time would be better suited for the legendaries while the starters carry their own separate theme. I cant think of a time when the starters had the same theme as the legendary Pokemon... seems like it would be redundant. In fact, I think the idea of a common theme for the starters has started fairly recently. Unless I am missing something with the first 4 generations, I am only seeing a theme (loosely based) around the 5th and 6th generation starters.
I would suggest that if we establish a theme, that it should be different than what the legendary Pokemon represent. If we take the route of the first 4 generations, we don't need a theme and that would open up some more flexibility in choosing the starters from different teams that submit them.
Re: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
But Dat fire ghost doe
But Dat fire ghost doe
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Also, I wouldn't recommend Rock/Fairy, or Diancie will be on your case.
Also, I wouldn't recommend Rock/Fairy, or Diancie will be on your case.
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Well, here's an idea I had before
Its supposed to be the game rival, and is basically Youngster Joey except older.
Well, here's an idea I had before
Its supposed to be the game rival, and is basically Youngster Joey except older.
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I agree with evilpacman; the theme shouldn't extend to starters. Besides, past-present-future implies a hierarchy, You can always use a ghost/fire typing for another pokemon. so don't worry about that. Just don't make it as OP as chandelure, please.
Anabel, we won't do anything of the hypotetical game except for what we need for the designs of the pokemon. Have you read the first post?
With my team we were considering a starter theme of royalty. We had a grass/fairy queen (of the fairies) and were trying to see if our other ideas could fit in the theme for some contrasting and badass kings, or some mythology too. I don't know, king of the beasts? (manticore maybe?) king of the sky? something like that.
Well, I finally figured out how to bypass google+ and get to picasa. DESTROYING GOOGLE+ WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE.
So finally, here it is:
A grass type squirrel that becomes a grass/fairy in its last stage.
You can notice how in the middle stage, it starts to get a more humanoid/elven appearance, standing more erect and how the ears taper a little.
In its last stage, it will become more elven-looking, with longer "hair" (that green patch on its back, that connects with the tail), and a crown of acorns, while all the seeds that are now in the tail bloom into flowers.
The idea was to start with something of a princess of nature (hence the elves) that evolves into a queen.
And that's how you must present your designs, kids, explain what you've done and why you've done it that way. Answer all the questions and yadda yadda yadda.
I agree with evilpacman; the theme shouldn't extend to starters. Besides, past-present-future implies a hierarchy, You can always use a ghost/fire typing for another pokemon. so don't worry about that. Just don't make it as OP as chandelure, please.
Anabel, we won't do anything of the hypotetical game except for what we need for the designs of the pokemon. Have you read the first post?
With my team we were considering a starter theme of royalty. We had a grass/fairy queen (of the fairies) and were trying to see if our other ideas could fit in the theme for some contrasting and badass kings, or some mythology too. I don't know, king of the beasts? (manticore maybe?) king of the sky? something like that.
Well, I finally figured out how to bypass google+ and get to picasa. DESTROYING GOOGLE+ WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE.
So finally, here it is:
A grass type squirrel that becomes a grass/fairy in its last stage.
You can notice how in the middle stage, it starts to get a more humanoid/elven appearance, standing more erect and how the ears taper a little.
In its last stage, it will become more elven-looking, with longer "hair" (that green patch on its back, that connects with the tail), and a crown of acorns, while all the seeds that are now in the tail bloom into flowers.
The idea was to start with something of a princess of nature (hence the elves) that evolves into a queen.
And that's how you must present your designs, kids, explain what you've done and why you've done it that way. Answer all the questions and yadda yadda yadda.
Re: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
Fire ghost, for an allusion to hades
Fire ghost, for an allusion to hades
RE: Let's Do the 7th Generation! PRESENT YOUR STARTER CONCEPTS - SIGN-UPS OPEN
We are only having one singular legendary with two different forms in two different time periods, right?
I'd rather keep the Rock --> Steel type change for the legendary Pokemon's forms because it seems to make sense (or at least it does in my head). I think that the primary type of the Pokemon should stay the same, though, since it is essentially a modernized version of the past form. However, if no one likes my concept later on, then the apocalyptic idea could run a Psychic --> Dark transition as Psychic represents sanity, calmness, and concentration, and Dark seems to force these qualities to their negative extremes. If we do actually want both types to change, then I'd suggest Psychic/Rock and Dark/Steel. I can see this happening, though the future beats the past twice...not that it really matters.
Keep in mind the more recent legendaries that have been released in the Pokemon franchise; Fairy- and Dark-type Pokemon were just used as version mascots, and there was also Zygarde to be considered as well. We also have three others that still haven't been officially announced yet, but don't forget their types because we do not want to copy them. That would seem somewhat lazy and I know I wouldn't want to play through a game that has the exact same kind of legendary Pokemon in it. We don't want to overlap typings too much. Also, if we're having a total of four different Pokemon (two past, two present), then that means there are four different main legendaries throughout the game. I think that's a little too much, but this is why we're still developing everything.
First, I really like the grass starter so far. Just remember the gender ratio
They're mostly guys. Also, it's too bad the emperor penguin has already been used. That would've been perfect. Also, Serperior is somewhat royalty as well. I'm not saying that I don't like your theme, but there are already several starters who exhibit this pride. Also, let me know when I can work with others on their stats!
We are only having one singular legendary with two different forms in two different time periods, right?
I'd rather keep the Rock --> Steel type change for the legendary Pokemon's forms because it seems to make sense (or at least it does in my head). I think that the primary type of the Pokemon should stay the same, though, since it is essentially a modernized version of the past form. However, if no one likes my concept later on, then the apocalyptic idea could run a Psychic --> Dark transition as Psychic represents sanity, calmness, and concentration, and Dark seems to force these qualities to their negative extremes. If we do actually want both types to change, then I'd suggest Psychic/Rock and Dark/Steel. I can see this happening, though the future beats the past twice...not that it really matters.
Keep in mind the more recent legendaries that have been released in the Pokemon franchise; Fairy- and Dark-type Pokemon were just used as version mascots, and there was also Zygarde to be considered as well. We also have three others that still haven't been officially announced yet, but don't forget their types because we do not want to copy them. That would seem somewhat lazy and I know I wouldn't want to play through a game that has the exact same kind of legendary Pokemon in it. We don't want to overlap typings too much. Also, if we're having a total of four different Pokemon (two past, two present), then that means there are four different main legendaries throughout the game. I think that's a little too much, but this is why we're still developing everything.
professorlight said:
First, I really like the grass starter so far. Just remember the gender ratio
They're mostly guys. Also, it's too bad the emperor penguin has already been used. That would've been perfect. Also, Serperior is somewhat royalty as well. I'm not saying that I don't like your theme, but there are already several starters who exhibit this pride. Also, let me know when I can work with others on their stats!- Status