Finished Mafia XL: Age of Piracy: Game Over!

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Everyone, please get your votes down. We have less than a day remaining.
Lord o da rings said:
Well after reading the whole thing, LC seems upset that his vote on NP is nullified, and that puts him as a read.
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His point (which is still flawed btw) is that I have a 0 vote weight, not that votes on me are nullified.
scattered mind said:
He might have a better chance of flipping scum than most of us, but he's not the best lynch"- but that is the definition of "the best lynch". Right? You are not going to find someone 100% scummy during D1, and not even 80%. Even if morda's case is 10% scummy- this is the guy you need to lynch in case you have no other cases.
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He's a good lynch for today (in my opinion the second best), but not the best one for today. That honor would go to LC.
scattered mind said:
What is the flawed reasoning?
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His reasoning that said Blakers and I were scummy because of our strange vote weights.
scattered mind said:
What questions did he ignore?
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He took a while to explain the like, and still hasn't responded to my points against him.
scattered mind said:
The explanation for the like he gave me is in the post above. I kinda understood that that is probably the reason he liked my post in the first place, and the reason I thought that way, and not that he liked my post and contradicted it at the same time, is the fact I know LC is not a D**bag. k?
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I have a challenge believing that his post was started before my first comment. You clearly do not. That is where we differ.
scattered mind said:
Any vote that comes at you with any reasoning other than -"you voted me, shame on you" is not OMGUS by definition.
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For me, OMGUS is also attempting to find a reason to pin someone who voted you as scum. Trying to find a reason after finding the player is very scummy.
simsands said:
This could both be him trying to keep his scumbuddy from getting lynched, or that he knows that morda is town and is trying to get towncred once morda flips.
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This is the kind of logic that kills town (read my case on bb in XXXVIII for an example). It basically condemns anyone who defends somebody as scum. That doesn't work.

Right now, we have less than a day left. I think LC is in the lead 4-2. LC, if you're still a fair amount in the lead after a couple of hours, it's probably good to claim.
 
On my phone and it is annoying to quote from here, so I will be lurking for the next few hours and then response to some of the things here. Btw, this day is clearly going to end with either morda or LC being lynched. Anyone who will not voice their opinion on both cases will leave the town without very much info for day 2. So please do share your thoughts as clearly as possible so we will have a great day with lots of info to work with, and also a great game for most of us to play in general.
 
I personally don't really like the case against LC. Unless I missed something, the main point is that they were lurking. They tried to make a point about Morda, but it wasn't very good. I suppose, to make sure the game moves faster, I'll vote on something that I basically started.
##VOTE: Mordacazir
 
LC was lurking, and that's why everyone voting against him. They tried to turn their case around against Mordacazir, but that didn't turn out well for them. NP seems to be trying to keep LC in the game, but I guess that could be seen either way. At the moment, my vote stays for LC. If there was something I missed something.
 
Day 1 Vote Count #4​
Vote Count to Lynch:
TheSceptileMaster: 0 | [scattered mind], [scattered mind]
mordacazir: 3 | [Blakers], [scattered mind], [Keeper of Night], [Lord o da rings], [Cypher333]
NinjaPenguin: 1 | [mordacazir], [scattered mind], [simsands]
scattered mind: 0 | [simsands]
Jadethepokemontrainer: 0 | [double o squirtle], [scattered mind]
Keeper of Night: 0 | [NinjaPenguin], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Cypher333: 0 | [Lord o da rings], [mordacazir]
Lord o da rings: 1 | [Jadethepokemontrainer], [Little Cherrim]
Vom: 2 | [PikaMasterJesi], [mordacazir], [NinjaPenguin]
double o squirtle: 1 | [TheSceptileMaster]
PikaMasterJesi: 1 | [Vom]
@Little Cherrim: 4 | [NinjaPenguin], [Blakers], [Jadethepokemontrainer]

It still be 8 to lynch.

Vote Count for Port:
Port Royal: 0 | [scattered mind], [Jadethepokemontrainer], [mordacazir]
Rumrunner's Isle: 1 | [Lord o da rings], [Blakers]
Tortuga: 6 | [Cypher333], [Vom], [scattered mind], [Blakers], [mordacazir], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Fiddler's Green: 2 | [Keeper of Night], [NinjaPenguin]

As a reminder: Day 1 ends on Saturday, April 1, at midnight EST, or approximately 38 hours from now in your own timezone.

There be no modkills for Day 1, but the followin' players need to pick up the activity by Day 2 or risk being subbed out.
@double o squirtle @TheSceptileMaster @PikaMasterJesi
Inactivity be defined as the hosts see fit.​
 
Ok so turns out that vote on two ports at the same time was a host mistake.. so I revealed that part of my role for nothing, but never mind.
 
The case on LC is very ironic. Np's defense on mord fits more on his case on LC. All you need to do to see that this is meta is looking at the last game LC played. Even though you can't really call one game meta, you will see how LC based all their thoughts on who is scum or town solely on the person's role. A better argument against LC would be that he does not learn from that mistake and ignores multiple posts telling how basing your reads only on roles is leading you nowhere. So @Little Cherrim , basically just give one reason a player is scummy or townie that is not based on a claimed ability or role. Read back and refer to the point I brought on the double vote role, and explain to me if you still think it is telling.
 
Jabberwock said:
Day 1 Vote Count #3​
Vote Count to Lynch:
TheSceptileMaster: 0 | [scattered mind], [scattered mind]
@mordacazir: 3 | [Blakers], [scattered mind], [Keeper of Night], [Lord o da rings]
NinjaPenguin: 0 | [mordacazir], [scattered mind]
scattered mind: 1 | [simsands]
Jadethepokemontrainer: 0 | [double o squirtle], [scattered mind]
Keeper of Night: 0 | [NinjaPenguin], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Cypher333: 0 | [Lord o da rings], [mordacazir]
Lord o da rings: 0 | [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Vom: 2 | [PikaMasterJesi], [mordacazir], [NinjaPenguin]
double o squirtle: 1 | [TheSceptileMaster]
PikaMasterJesi: 1 | [Vom]
@Little Cherrim: 3 | [NinjaPenguin], [Blakers], [Jadethepokemontrainer]

It still be 8 to lynch.

Vote Count for Port:
Port Royal: 1 | [scattered mind], [Jadethepokemontrainer], [mordacazir]
Rumrunner's Isle: 1 | [Lord o da rings], [Blakers]
Tortuga: 6 | [Cypher333], [Vom], [scattered mind], [Blakers], [mordacazir], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Fiddler's Green: 2 | [Keeper of Night], [NinjaPenguin]
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Jabberwock said:
Day 1 Vote Count #4​
Vote Count to Lynch:
TheSceptileMaster: 0 | [scattered mind], [scattered mind]
mordacazir: 3 | [Blakers], [scattered mind], [Keeper of Night], [Lord o da rings], [Cypher333]
NinjaPenguin: 1 | [mordacazir], [scattered mind], [simsands]
scattered mind: 0 | [simsands]
Jadethepokemontrainer: 0 | [double o squirtle], [scattered mind]
Keeper of Night: 0 | [NinjaPenguin], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Cypher333: 0 | [Lord o da rings], [mordacazir]
Lord o da rings: 1 | [Jadethepokemontrainer], [Little Cherrim]
Vom: 2 | [PikaMasterJesi], [mordacazir], [NinjaPenguin]
double o squirtle: 1 | [TheSceptileMaster]
PikaMasterJesi: 1 | [Vom]
@Little Cherrim: 4 | [NinjaPenguin], [Blakers], [Jadethepokemontrainer]

It still be 8 to lynch.

Vote Count for Port:
Port Royal: 0 | [scattered mind], [Jadethepokemontrainer], [mordacazir]
Rumrunner's Isle: 1 | [Lord o da rings], [Blakers]
Tortuga: 6 | [Cypher333], [Vom], [scattered mind], [Blakers], [mordacazir], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Fiddler's Green: 2 | [Keeper of Night], [NinjaPenguin]

As a reminder: Day 1 ends on Saturday, April 1, at midnight EST, or approximately 38 hours from now in your own timezone.

There be no modkills for Day 1, but the followin' players need to pick up the activity by Day 2 or risk being subbed out.
@double o squirtle @TheSceptileMaster @PikaMasterJesi
Inactivity be defined as the hosts see fit.​
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Little Cherrim had 3 votes before, but now 4 votes with the same people? Is that correct?
@Jabberwock @bbninjas
NinjaPenguin said:
Everyone, please get your votes down.
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##unvote: Vom
##vote: Little Cherrim
 
Jadethepokemontrainer said:
LC was lurking, and that's why everyone voting against him. They tried to turn their case around against Mordacazir, but that didn't turn out well for them. NP seems to be trying to keep LC in the game, but I guess that could be seen either way. At the moment, my vote stays for LC. If there was something I missed something.
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If anything NP is the leader of the LC case.
Why do you think LC is scum?
 
Cypher333 said:
I personally don't really like the case against LC. Unless I missed something, the main point is that they were lurking. They tried to make a point about Morda, but it wasn't very good. I suppose, to make sure the game moves faster, I'll vote on something that I basically started.
##VOTE: Mordacazir
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Really ? How did you start it? Was it from the same reason as mine?
 
Out of Little Cherrim and mordacazir, I would have to go with morda. The LC case makes little sense to me, and if morda flips scum, we will have a great lead on NinjaPenguin going into day 2.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: mordacazir

@@PORT: Tortuga
 
You guys are really going to lynch me just because I didn't give reasoning at first for a PORT vote? LC does actual scummy things.
 
scattered mind said:
If anything NP is the leader of the LC case.
Why do you think LC is scum?
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Right. I meant the other way around with Mord. I'd say the fact that LC was kinda meta playing is the main reason, but the way they where trying to turn all the attention away from them and onto Morda was kinda suspicious. At least to me, with the way they did it.
 
Well since I'm on a flight tomorrow, I may as well finish my thoughts here. Both LC and mord's cases make sense to me. Both of them seem scummy to me, but the difference is mord's lynch gives us reads on both LC and NP. If mord flips scum then NP is almost certainly scum. LC could then be referred to as town as well. However, LC's lynch provides us with virtually nothing going into Day 2. While both LC and mord, in my opinion, are equally scummy, mord's lynch would be much more helpful to the town. ##UNVOTE: Little Cherrim ##VOTE: mordacazir
 
I don't know what I can do but:
Jabberwock said:
You’re Tia Dalma, and you’re aligned with The Motley Crew. You are the goddess Calypso, feared deity of the sea! At least… that was before the first Pirate Lords bound you into a limited human form. Now, a reclusive mystic hiding somewhere in the Caribbean, most of the world doesn’t even know you exist. But you’ll do anything to track down those pieces of eight that are your prison and return to your former glory.

Passive Ability: Burning Incantation
The incantation necessary to release you from your human bonds involves burning the pieces of eight, once they are assembled. If you come into possession of any of the pieces of eight, you will burn them immediately, removing them from the game.

Active Ability: Dark Arts
With your dark powers, you can do things other pirates wouldn’t dream of! Once per Night Phase, you may PM the hosts the name of a player. If that player is holding an item, it will be passed to you instead of to the intended target (only one will be passed to you, if they hold more than one). You can’t use this Ability on a player you passed an item to in the same Night.

Passive Ability: Dark Shield
[LOCKED]
Unlocks when one piece of eight has been destroyed.

Active Ability: Draw In
[LOCKED]
Unlocks when one piece of eight has been destroyed.

Passive Ability: Storm Warning
[LOCKED]
Unlocks when two pieces of eight have been destroyed.

Active Ability: Returned From the Grave
[LOCKED]
Unlocks when two pieces of eight have been destroyed.

Active Ability: Sudden Reveal
[LOCKED]
Unlocks when three pieces of eight have been destroyed.

Active Ability: Shedding Light
[LOCKED]
Unlocks when three pieces of eight have been destroyed.

Win Condition: All threats to the Motley Crew are eliminated.
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Calypso would have struck me for an indie role. Huh. Problem is he can't prove his role, but the sheer amount of abilities in it pretty much confirm it can't be even a safe-claim for scum. That doesn't rule him out for being indie, (Calypso would be an awesome safe-claim if we had Davy Jones) but for now I'll abstain.

##UNVOTE: mordacazir

Now I'll go ahead and follow my previous post against LC.
##VOTE: Little Cherrim
 
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