Finished Mafia XXXV: Pokemon Card GB3: Team GR's Last Stand

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Jabberwock said:
You seemed ready enough to judge earlier. Is Vom another of your scumbuddies?

I said perhaps, since it is just based on D1 and 2, and then-

What does Vom's opinion do, any more than anyone else's opinion does? He's not under a huge amount of pressure right now or anything. Not like you are.
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To check if that activity continues today as well, as it was the topic of our little conversation. I did not pull out his name out of nowhere.
 
NinjaPenguin said:
Hi! I've subbed out for xDoggerx, have read the thread, and am ready to help in whatever way possible. Also, @PikaMasterJesi I do not plan to sub out:D.
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Welcome to the game! ^.^

A good way to start would be offering your opinion on the current cases we have. @scattered mind and @Squirtle Squad.

Also, might I ask what your experience is playing Mafia?
scattered mind said:
To check if that activity continues today as well, as it was the topic of our little conversation. I did not pull out his name out of nowhere.
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Tagging a player (except when the host does it) throws a wrench into their activity statistics. Vom might as well be very active right now, which wouldn't ordinarily be a scumtell, except that you tagged him for no other reason than to boost his activity. On the other hand, if he doesn't make a new post, it's taken as a scumtell anyway, contributing to the "Vom is ignoring this so he's scum" school of thought. So now you've made it look as though either way, Vom is scum. Isn't that what you accused me of doing to you a page or so ago?
 
NinjaPenguin said:
Also, @PikaMasterJesi I do not plan to sub out:D.
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At last! Hopefully that plan goes accordingly. ^v^
NinjaPenguin said:
have read the thread,
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Alright, so you should be able to jump right into action! That's good.
scattered mind said:
To check if that activity continues today as well
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Well, Vom made, like, one or two posts yesterday. His activity has plummeted. I presume you're checking to see if he'll somehow reappear and post 50 times or something?
 
PikaMasterJesi said:
RIP, so many subs. It really sucks to see so many people dropping out of the game.

@scattered mind, what changed my mind again was how you reverted back to your play before your defence. It's hard to explain, but it seemed like right after you got off the hook, you let your guard down, at least in my eyes.
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In what way? Stop being vague about it. What did I do ? Was it me asking "No, Why?" -that little post was the amazing evidence? how come?
What is my play that you are referring to?


And if this is the point Jabber made that you're referring to, then yes, I did find this a bit of a tell.

I believe this was your response:

Why wouldn't you at least put a vote on SS to pressure him further? It's not like it'd automatically cause a lynch or anything. Otherwise, I don't see much wrong with this.
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Please relate to the point where I said I am going to vote SS if he doesn't response soon. This is my play throughout the history of my time in Pokebeach Mafia.

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I'm finding this really interesting. Why call for Vom specifically? Is it because you're trying to back up the fact that you're townreading a player whose inactivity is a huge tell for their alignment?

Also, welcome to the game, NinjaPenguin! Hopefully you'll stick around throughout this game and not sub out like at least five others have.
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Nice echo- Please read what I said to Jabber about it.
 
Jabberwock said:
Tagging a player (except when the host does it) throws a wrench into their activity statistics. Vom might as well be very active right now, which wouldn't ordinarily be a scumtell, except that you tagged him for no other reason than to boost his activity. On the other hand, if he doesn't make a new post, it's taken as a scumtell anyway, contributing to the "Vom is ignoring this so he's scum" school of thought. So now you've made it look as though either way, Vom is scum. Isn't that what you accused me of doing to you a page or so ago?
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No- If Vom posts, and contributes, this will certainly make him look more town to me. This is not like your post at all.
 
PikaMasterJesi said:
Well, Vom made, like, one or two posts yesterday. His activity has plummeted. I presume you're checking to see if he'll somehow reappear and post 50 times or something?
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This is another interesting point. Vom has to show up at least three times today or risk the modkill anyway. There's not really a good reason to tag him.
 
scattered mind said:
No- If Vom posts, and contributes, this will certainly make him look more town to me. This is not like your post at all.
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All right, I can see your train of thought there. There's still no reason to tag him, though, unless he's a scumbuddy you don't want to get modkilled.
 
scattered mind said:
Nice echo- Please read what I said to Jabber about it.
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This was a ninja I didn't see until after I posted.
scattered mind said:
Please relate to the point where I said I am going to vote SS if he doesn't response soon. This is my play throughout the history of my time in Pokebeach Mafia.
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I know you've said that quote. But why wait when you can pressure with a temporary vote?
scattered mind said:
No- If Vom posts, and contributes, this will certainly make him look more town to me. This is not like your post at all.
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I can understand this, but it doesn't mean he'll look towny to everyone.
scattered mind said:
In what way? Stop being vague about it. What did I do ? Was it me asking "No, Why?" -that little post was the amazing evidence? how come?
What is my play that you are referring to?
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Look, I'm not trying to be vague. I already said that I have trouble putting things into words and explaining sometimes. I'm referring to here on with your playing. I do appreciate that you added the thing on SS––don't get me wrong––but you're just playing the same as you were before.
 
Jabberwock said:
You asked what his thoughts were on the SS lynch, a lynch you still refuse to get behind. Is that the only thing you want him to contribute on? How about your own lynch?
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He already said what he thinks about my lynch. Why would I ask that?
 
There's a lot that's happened since then. I, for example, wasn't following your lynch. I am now. The only reason my vote isn't on you is because SS still needs to be pressured. And from the look of it, you're already under rather a lot of pressure.

This is a pointless tangent. Jesi's been bringing up good points, too, which you're ignoring under the assertion that she's being too vague.
PikaMasterJesi said:
I know you've said that quote. But why wait when you can pressure with a temporary vote?
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I don't believe you've answered this, yet.
 
To answer Jesi's question: @Squirtle Squad is online now reading the thread. If he doesn't say anything- I will vote him. (Like I planned to do from the beginning- this is how I think pressure works better).
 
Nope. Pressure is used to let a given player know that they need to respond to something. There's no point to "pressuring" after Squirtle Squad responds.
 
Jabberwock said:
Nope. Pressure is used to let a given player know that they need to respond to something. There's no point to "pressuring" after Squirtle Squad responds.
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I said- if he DOES NOT response after being online like he is just now- then I will vote- to get him response.
 
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