Finished Mafia XXXV: Pokemon Card GB3: Team GR's Last Stand

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Oh, misread. >.>

Point still stands. Pretty sure that's not the best way to pressure.
 
Ok I'm here.
I can see why you'd say that I "echoed" but look at what TGK posted, it was in fact scummy as (in my eyes) so why wouldn't I vote him. Are you saying that to lynch someone who takes 9 votes to lynch then each person on the wagon needs to provide something 100% unique to what the others are saying?

To me, it was completely scummy on TGKs part and I thought that deserved a vote :) simple.

Well in that case I guess I'll reveal a little since involves SS
Last night I sent in an action to buff bb, but today I was told Squirtle Squad was the one affected by it. I don't know if this could be the effect of some lightning rod affected caused by SS or someone redirecting actions onto SS.

I wasn't notified of any ability affecting me last night, nor am I a lightning rod.

##vote: bbninjas
If it's a self redirecting ability that belongs to bb it could be a potential scum ability, though I've used on town roles too.
 
SS, you responded to the first point, and not the second. Here it is, for reference.

You mention that scattered's posts look a little different, but you don't elaborate. IDK, this feels to me like scum trying to appear as town by covering all their bases, just in case one lynch flops. You also suggest that bb isn't protown, actually providing more (not echoed!) evidence than for TGK.
 
Fine, your opinion. Is it scummy though? If this is what I always do?
Is it what you always do? I can't ever recall you pressuring that way. And yes, I do read it as scummy. It's a very easy way for you to avoid voting for your scumbuddy when you're both up for the lynch.
 
Is it what you always do? I can't ever recall you pressuring that way. And yes, I do read it as scummy. It's a very easy way for you to avoid voting for your scumbuddy when you're both up for the lynch.

I am telling you this. You can check for yourself. It is extremely rare for me to vote someone right after a case has been made on him and that the person have not responded yet.
As for my condition right now.. I am waiting for later on in the day to pull out my last effort to defend myself, still hoping that we won't get there, but it is pretty obvious we will.
 
@PikaMasterJesi @Jabberwock I'm not an expert at this, as I am completely new to role madness (I do have years of experience of in person, boring Mafia). I am not a fan of any of the current cases, as most of them are based on metas I do not know about (though SS's case looks like there is very little evidence to back it up, as opposed the existent evidence for Scattered). One person, however, seems fishy to me, and that is Camoclone. Here is a weird thing I noticed about him:
He started the Scattered case:
SM ISO Part 1.


RVS.


RVS.


Wagon. Nothing wrong yet.


Nothing wrong yet.










Translation: I don't know if blank is scum I need to check. Blank is most likely scum but maybe he isn't but we should still lynch him. We aren't going to lynch anyone but blank today. Maybe blank is scum but I need to check that too.


Wagon. No individual thoughts.


Wagon.




Translation: I just want to make you happy by agreeing with you.






Wagon.







Important points from part one:
  • All he does is bandwagon and try to make people happy. And it's not like he's a new player.
  • A lot of questions. Questions aren't bad but when you are asking more questions than you are analyzing then there is a problem.
  • He never seems to really know what is going on. He says "I need to read back". That's cute and stuff and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you weigh in sometime. SM never weighs in with anything important or relevant.
Stay tuned for part two.
Yet jumps off of it two pages later, as it has very little support beside a non-voting Jesi:
Yes yes. I am reassured you are one of us.

##UNVOTE: SCATTERED MIND

Who do you think is scum my brother?
However, when BB shows interest, he start accusing his "friend" Scattered and votes him again (2 pages after the unvote), even though Scattered had not said anything in between the two times.
##VOTE: SCATTERED MIND

So @Camoclone, I must ask: Why did you change opinions on the case without any evidence? Because right now, I think it was because your case gained momentum and you knew it was the best way to avoid one of your fellow scum being lynched. If you don't give me a good answer, I will vote you. This is not a shallow threat.
 
SS, you responded to the first point, and not the second. Here it is, for reference.

The whole thing I saw with bb, which combined with the potential self redirect is why I'm voting him, was that to me
It sounds like he made that "case" to at least look like a townie making cases but then he dropped it pretty quick...

I'm now unsure about scattered, everyone seems to be riding him for being scum, but personally I don't really see it, yesterday he defended himself really well which makes him town in my eyes. Though if you think back to the avatar game there were three days in a row where the town was 50/50 split between a scum and a town player and in each example a townie was lynched. Could be what happened yesterday and scattered is scum?


I just answered why this was the case? Read up? Yes I probably was echoing someone but only because wha tgk did was incredibly scummy and deserved the vote.
 
@PikaMasterJesi @Jabberwock I'm not an expert at this, as I am completely new to role madness (I do have years of experience of in person, boring Mafia). I am not a fan of any of the current cases, as most of them are based on metas I do not know about (though SS's case looks like there is very little evidence to back it up, as opposed the existent evidence for Scattered). One person, however, seems fishy to me, and that is Camoclone. Here is a weird thing I noticed about him:
He started the Scattered case:
Yet jumps off of it two pages later, as it has very little support beside a non-voting Jesi:

However, when BB shows interest, he start accusing his "friend" Scattered and votes him again (2 pages after the unvote), even though Scattered had not said anything in between the two times.


So @Camoclone, I must ask: Why did you change opinions on the case without any evidence? Because right now, I think it was because your case gained momentum and you knew it was the best way to avoid one of your fellow scum being lynched. If you don't give me a good answer, I will vote you. This is not a shallow threat.

He was sarcastic. He never actually changed his mind.
 
@PikaMasterJesi @Jabberwock I'm not an expert at this, as I am completely new to role madness (I do have years of experience of in person, boring Mafia). I am not a fan of any of the current cases, as most of them are based on metas I do not know about (though SS's case looks like there is very little evidence to back it up, as opposed the existent evidence for Scattered). One person, however, seems fishy to me, and that is Camoclone. Here is a weird thing I noticed about him:
He started the Scattered case:
Yet jumps off of it two pages later, as it has very little support beside a non-voting Jesi:

However, when BB shows interest, he start accusing his "friend" Scattered and votes him again (2 pages after the unvote), even though Scattered had not said anything in between the two times.


So @Camoclone, I must ask: Why did you change opinions on the case without any evidence? Because right now, I think it was because your case gained momentum and you knew it was the best way to avoid one of your fellow scum being lynched. If you don't give me a good answer, I will vote you. This is not a shallow threat.
Yes it is a shallow threat. Werewolf / Mafia experience?
 
The whole thing I saw with bb, which combined with the potential self redirect is why I'm voting him, was that to me
It sounds like he made that "case" to at least look like a townie making cases but then he dropped it pretty quick...

I'm now unsure about scattered, everyone seems to be riding him for being scum, but personally I don't really see it, yesterday he defended himself really well which makes him town in my eyes. Though if you think back to the avatar game there were three days in a row where the town was 50/50 split between a scum and a town player and in each example a townie was lynched. Could be what happened yesterday and scattered is scum?



I just answered why this was the case? Read up? Yes I probably was echoing someone but only because wha tgk did was incredibly scummy and deserved the vote.
You actually think he defended well? It was an awful defense.
 
@Camoclone I thought the case was legit until Scattered told me you were being sarcastic. With the knowledge that you were being sarcastic, it seems like totally shallow threat. After I learned you were being sarcastic, my suspicion of you is gone. You are correct that I am new to online formats :(.
Also, just so everyone knows, I will only be available from 7-9 AM EST and 2:15-6:15 PM EST, since I am helping a teacher at a summer camp between those times.
 
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