Finished Mafia XXXV: Pokemon Card GB3: Team GR's Last Stand

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scattered mind said:
Please explain, what am I doing that makes you think I am getting more and more scummy? What is it in my posts that makes you feel that way?
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Just gut feeling, I am sorry I couldn't response earlier because my google account was deleted and my password too.
bbninjas said:
This isn't scummy. Find it funny that a wagon started after this post though. [Future reference.]

Okay, so if I've got it right, the Jesi case is because she is bandwagoning/feigning confusion, scumhunting using meta reads and being concerned about whether her posts appear scummy/town? I think the latter two points are good points that I haven't thought about before now. She's made her defense already, so here's my thoughts on the case:
- I think the bandwagoning and being confused is fairly characteristic. She is new to the game, so while she may be read up, she hasn't got the experience, so confusion makes sense. I can see Jesi scumhunting using metareads occurring as both town and scum due to her inexperience, so null evidence imo. The last point, however, is quite interesting and definitely a legitimate point indicating a scummy alignment. Nevertheless, I don't think that Jesi is the best lynch for today. I think that SS > SM > Jesi for who should be lynched today.


Well, he did. He said:



Nono, the SS case is much more than that:
- echoing/not actually making many contributions
- wagoning
- flippy/trying to cover all bases
- Making strange assumptions that only an informed player (i.e. using the scumchat) should make
- Grasping straws/slight tunneling (finding someone scummy for doing a pro-town thing)

Response to SS is coming soon...
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bbninjas said:
From what you have actually said, virtually your entire vote is assumptions or WIFOM. To top it if, you say "bb seems off" and "I haven't liked how you've been playing". No reasons. This vote screams BIG scum to me.


You misinterpreted. I actually gave a brief explanation in brackets.


Please explain how he "defended himself really well", because this looks like scum saying stuff without logical reasoning.


I wonder why people are voting you...


This is scummy AtE. You haven't defended properly, and instead concluded with a "this is ridiculous [woe is me]".


There's no solid basis here. Scum will say this, town will have a reason.


More unexplained hunch. You've now added the "extra defensive" part, which has been strangely non-existent from everything else you have said.


Very hypocritical. I would say that "this case is ridiculous" is the "biggest AtE", so by this logic, you should be lynched!

So, from this, we can update the SS case!
- WIFOMy vote based on unreasoned and unexplained hunches
- poor defense, topped off with scummy AtE
- Hypocritical
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Don't know which one of this cases is best.
 
GM DracLord said:
Like anyone else never refer others like that
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The rest of your post is fine, but this bit just seems a little defensive for just a question.

QUOTE="NinjaPenguin, post: 2811322, member: 115908"]I can't make a case on Jesi because I don't believe she is scum.[/QUOTE]
Then...then why do you want a case made on Jesi? e.e
 
PikaMasterJesi has mod-approved leave from now until whenever she said she was gonna be back

So does Jabbyjab.
 
mordacazir said:
Just gut feeling, I am sorry I couldn't response earlier because my google account was deleted and my password too.
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You specifically said that I am getting more and more scummy. Gut feeling is an initial reaction. What made your gut feeling increase?
 
PikaMasterJesi said:
No, not at all. I'm just saying "I understand where you're coming from with this." I don't know how that suddenly made me scum in your eyes.
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You contradict yourself. If you understand where he is coming from, why do you say that you don't know how that made you scum in his eyes?
 
Replying while I have gas station wifi

Because I don't see why agreeing with points a player brings up on how I'm playing and such can be scummy. I'm just keeping the points in mind, so how does that make me scum?
 
SM has improved his play. That's not necessarily indicative of alignment but for now I'll look into some other options. I don't trust him at all there are definitely better candidates for today. I've been confined to mobile for this day and will remain so until next week so I apologize for my level of activity.
##UNVOTE: SCATTERED MIND
 
Vom said:
The rest of your post is fine, but this bit just seems a little defensive for just a question.
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Probably my brain is full with those interesting character from Suit ... a bit dramatized.

NinjaPenguin said:
Can someone make a large scale case of Jesi, using her posts as evidence? All I see her as is a trigger happy player who loves to bandwagon and AtE. She may be suspicious, but she did not do anything obviously scummy. On the other hand, Squirtle Squad is relying on a "hunch" he can't explain to vote a neutral.
P.S. I've finished reading Mafia XXIX (Melee, as it was the most recent game played in chat to not have the winner in the title) to get meta reads on people.
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If I were you, I wouldn't care much nor mention anything about Jesi since votes aren't piling on her and I'm don't need to protect Jesi. If you weren't totally new here. I would just chalked it off as a sudden interest to defend a fellow teammate that gone wrong
 
Vote count as of post 1020

scattered mind: 1 (Camoclone bbninjas @Luispipe8 PikaMasterJesi)
Squirtle Squad: 4 (Jabberwock, bbninjas, Reinforce, PikaMasterJesi, NinjaPenguin)
bbninjas: 1 (Squirtle Squad)
PikaMasterJesi: 3 (GM DracLord, scattered mind, Professor Palutena)
GM DracLord: 1 (Camoclone)

Not voting: 4 (King Xerneas, @HOY, @mordacazir, Vom)

Squirtle Squad is at L-4.
PikaMasterJesi is at L-5.

Day 3 ends July 15 at 3 PM CST, or 22.5 hours from the time of this post. It is eight to lynch. If you are tagged you may or may not have met the vote requirement, but you should still post more. :)
 
##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: Squirtle Squad

After being online twice without any comment, I don't think SS wants to answer.
 
GM DracLord said:
f I were you, I wouldn't care much nor mention anything about Jesi since votes aren't piling on her and I'm don't need to protect Jesi. If you weren't totally new here. I would just chalked it off as a sudden interest to defend a fellow teammate that gone wrong
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...what? Please explain.
 
Camoclone said:
There's not much to explain. He made a very scummy post and deserves to be lynched.
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That's right, I just want to understand the 'If you weren't totally new here. I would just chalked it off as a sudden interest to defend a fellow teammate that gone wrong' bit, since Penguin isn't defending Jesi.
 
So I survived the semester... I think :v I have been following up, though.

##UNVOTE: scattered mind

I don't really see you that scummy for now.

lol @NinjaPenguin's case on camo. :p I think all of us did something like that when we first joined. I even remember daring him to check PM convos since he was a mod and I wasn't xD So foolish.

I'm not even commenting on Jesi, it's not worth it.

I can go and echo everything people have said about SS... but I'll instead say "I echo everything said about SS's case". :v What else do you want, all that can be said has been already, so...

##VOTE: Squirtle Squad
 
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