Finished Mafia XXXVII: Celever's School Grades ~ Game Over!

[VinculumStellarum]

You know, I just realized something.

My role is worded to suggest that there are several gay players that I can form a neighborhood with, probably 3 or 4. My thought process was to then try and find all of the gay roles, which is why I made that post. Chances are, one of the gay roles is scum so it helps me with my scumhunting when I can operate on the notion that "one of these three/four players is likely scum". It makes things easier on me then trying to work with all 16ish or however many.

All the roles, as far as I know, are school subjects. How could a school subject be "gay", as you call it? Is your role not that of a school subject? Could you possibly be part of a third party, and you're stating this to find the other members of your third party?

 

[Professor Palutena]

You know, I just realized something.


All the roles, as far as I know, are school subjects. How could a school subject be "gay", as you call it? Is your role not that of a school subject? Could you possibly be part of a third party, and you're stating this to find the other members of your third party?

My role is a school subject and is generally stereotyped to be a subject for gays.

 

[VinculumStellarum]

Huh, interesting. I'm trying to think of any school subjects that would be stereotyped like that, but I can't think of much...

Gonna guess Home Economics for now. That's all I can think of.

 

[TheAnticipationEevee]

Huh, interesting. I'm trying to think of any school subjects that would be stereotyped like that, but I can't think of much...

Gonna guess Home Economics for now. That's all I can think of.

Maybe art or like creative writing?

 

[TheAnticipationEevee]

I guess Choir can fall into that category too...

 

[VinculumStellarum]

...Wait, don't answer that, PP. That's a rolefish, and it'll give the scum more info than they need.

Maybe art or like creative writing?

*goes off on a rant about how said subjects aren't like that in her eyes >:K*
As much as I love those subjects, they could be possible candidates. Highly doubt it though.

 

[TheAnticipationEevee]

...Wait, don't answer that, PP. That's a rolefish, and it'll give the scum more info than they need.


*goes off on a rant about how said subjects aren't like that in her eyes >:K*
As much as I love those subjects, they could be possible candidates. Highly doubt it though.

I don't know if that's directed at me, but I was just brainstorming some roles that are positive candidates, as I have never heard of the terms of "gay" school subjects, but those are the subjects I *think* would fall in that category.

I could perhaps come up with a bigger list, or is that a bad idea?

 

[VinculumStellarum]

The "don't answer" was at PP, although I think the guessing should stop here to avoid role fishing.

 

[TheAnticipationEevee]

Anyways, I thought, I'd leave my thoughts for the night:

Whatever a "gay" subject is, we can leave it at that vagueness with the above correct or incorrect examples, or we can come up with a bigger list. I don't see how a bigger list hurts the town, but I could be missing something. Those 4 roles above seem to have an accurate depiction of what the subjects could be, but maybe the term could be mis used, mis interpreted, or just simply the roles aren't even there. (Unless you have the role, in which case then you would know it, and good for you with that extra knowledge, but the town won't know nor should the town know at this point in the game for obvious reasons).

Also, going back to the idea of 3rd Parties. I cannot possibly think of a reason for 3rd Parties. If the Mafia Faction is called the "Bs" and the town is called the "As" as stated in the front page context, it just doesn't make sense for a 3rd Party. It isn't set up that way, but maybe I could be completely missing something. As I claimed earlier, I thought that Robin would be that 3rd Party, but in thinking about it deeper, this 3rd Party thing just doesn't even fit the context. This leaves me confused as to Robin as they are kind of acting to scummy to be scum in a way (if anyone gets that), but too (insert adjective here) to be a town, which ultimately leaves me dumbfounded.

 

[Squirtle Squad]

Kinda, but not really. I think the PP case is pretty good right now, and the Robin case should be dropped for now. I see nothing wrong with Wailord for now, but I have one quick thing to point out on SS:


You say that was dumbtelling, but you also say you added the "From my understanding" accidentally? Not sure how you can have both at once. Which is it?

Accidental dumbtelling. I typed it in there accidentally, but yes i can see how it was dumbtelling, so I said it was, because yes, it reads as dumbtelling.

My role is worded to suggest that there are several gay players that I can form a neighborhood with, probably 3 or 4. My thought process was to then try and find all of the gay roles, which is why I made that post. Chances are, one of the gay roles is scum so it helps me with my scumhunting when I can operate on the notion that "one of these three/four players is likely scum". It makes things easier on me then trying to work with all 16ish or however many.


I believe it to be true so I'll continue to say it. I've played so many games elsewhere with a significantly high proportion of vanilla townies (upwards of 60% of roles that have no influence outside of their vote and voice, with the vote being the primary method of influence), so I will admit that it colors my beliefs. But it's advice I've gotten that has changed how I play this game.

In addition, if you're lynching me for believing this, I don't see any difference in lynching Jesi for the constant AtE. It's my MO, as you'd put it.



I think you're missing the part where my vote isn't on Jesi. Why would I push a wagon I have no interest in joining? I don't like the Jesi wagon, and my posts about her have been nothing more than me trying to engage with the conversation. My vote is on Robin and it'll be staying there for the foreseeable future at this rate.

Never mind, I'm not your gay neighbour, my role is just really bad. Haha

My role is a school subject and is generally stereotyped to be a subject for gays.

Probs Drama or Visual Arts, anything artsy that's not Music

 

[Scattered mind]

Hello, everyone. I finished reading the thread.

The case on Jesi is awful and never should have gotten as far as it did. FOS to everyone on the wagon and especially those of you who know better and still decided to say nothing. Shout outs to PP for being my suspect for today.



Neighbors? Ew. Why do you care at all about finding a neighbor? You can't trust neighbors. The only reason I can think of that you want to be found immediately is that you can get them to feed you information to relay back to your scum team. It says quite a lot that this was your first post.



For the second time, this is not true at all, please stop saying it.



An example of PP trying to play off Jesi's panicking



This is Jesi's MO and not at all out of character for her. She AtE's like it's going out of style and you're surprised she is freaking out?

Here is another example of PP trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.



Still trying to push this trashy wagon. For shame.

##VOTE: Professor Palutena

This will be the extent of my activity for today, but I'll try to at least check back in a couple more times. No big posts though.

I can think of many reasons as to why a town player would need to know about their neighbors. You just had an example last game with Keeper and the vote weight he got with each QT. In fact, the only reason I think someone would use that as a main point in a case, is a scum trying really wisely to role fish.

Huh, interesting. I'm trying to think of any school subjects that would be stereotyped like that, but I can't think of much...

Gonna guess Home Economics for now. That's all I can think of.

Maybe art or like creative writing?

...Wait, don't answer that, PP. That's a rolefish, and it'll give the scum more info than they need.

FOS on all of the above for role fishing in one way or another.

 

[Scattered mind]

Also, going back to the idea of 3rd Parties. I cannot possibly think of a reason for 3rd Parties. If the Mafia Faction is called the "Bs" and the town is called the "As" as stated in the front page context, it just doesn't make sense for a 3rd Party. It isn't set up that way, but maybe I could be completely missing something. As I claimed earlier, I thought that Robin would be that 3rd Party, but in thinking about it deeper, this 3rd Party thing just doesn't even fit the context. This leaves me confused as to Robin as they are kind of acting to scummy to be scum in a way (if anyone gets that), but too (insert adjective here) to be a town, which ultimately leaves me dumbfounded.

You are speculating about indies more than a town person should .. Why are you so interested if there is an indie or not? What's make you think Robin is indie and not just scum? How can you tell?

Never mind, I'm not your gay neighbour, my role is just really bad. Haha

Probs Drama or Visual Arts, anything artsy that's not Music

It's like this whole page has a magical thing that makes people talk nothing but their roles..

 

[PMJ]

I disagree.

We're supposed to be engaging with the different wagons, as the point of presenting cases is for people to entertain the ideas and work with them. If you're just going to focus on one case (which is what you appear to be advocating for), all you're doing is tunneling. Earlier in the day, I was entertaining the Jesi wagon, hence the posts PMJ quoted. However, like most of us at this point now realize, the Jesi wagon isn't that good, which is why I'm sticking with Robin now.

But no one said Jesi's wagon was a bad idea until I just said it was. And only bb said we should drop it. That's hardly "most of us." You're trying too hard to look town.

 

[simsands]

I disagree.

We're supposed to be engaging with the different wagons, as the point of presenting cases is for people to entertain the ideas and work with them. If you're just going to focus on one case (which is what you appear to be advocating for), all you're doing is tunneling. Earlier in the day, I was entertaining the Jesi wagon, hence the posts PMJ quoted. However, like most of us at this point now realize, the Jesi wagon isn't that good, which is why I'm sticking with Robin now.

You're just keeping your vote on an old wagon, you're not actually engaging in it. Am I wrong? Would you not consider your behavior tunneling?

You are speculating about indies more than a town person should .. Why are you so interested if there is an indie or not? What's make you think Robin is indie and not just scum? How can you tell?

I would like to hear TAE's response to this as well. I believe he was speculating about it earlier during the day, as well. TAE, why do you seem more interested in finding indies rather than finding scum?

 

[Scattered mind]

That was actually completely coincidental. I went out-of-province to visit family. Why would I have taken such a long V/LA if I was feeling overly pressured, anyways? That's not logical in my eyes.

That point was to show that the fact you went V/LA does not indicate that you are scum, since you did it last game, as well other points that I included that we cannot infer that they are you being yourself or being scum copying your town self.

Getting lynched Day 1, or even in general. I don't like being killed, but I don't think anyone likes being killed.

Then you contradicted yourself. If everyone should share their thoughts, they should not be afraid of getting lynched, as you say- in general. If this game you are doing something against what you as town said in another game, it is scummy. Don't you agree?

 

[Camoclone]

#UNVOTE:
#VOTE: ROBIN AISAGA

 

[Camoclone]

We really need a vote count.

 

[Robin Aisaga]

You asked me what my stance is on Bandwagoning.

Ideally, a player should always explain their vote instead of simply agreeing with one or another. But when someone is in a tricky situation or lacks time and motivation to make their own case, it is a tempting thing to do. So, in my opinion it's certainly not a good habit, but I can see why it happens. And just because someone is a hypocrite shouldn't mean they may not attend other players for similar mistakes.

But you Camoclone are the master of hypocrites! Just remember what you said to Eevee. I have three votes for the record including yours.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Camoclone

 

[simsands]

But you Camoclone are the master of hypocrites! Just remember what you said to Eevee.

What are you referring to?

 

[Robin Aisaga]

^I love it when people who are guilty of bandwagon accuse others of it.