RE: PokeBeach's Official X / Y Ban List
I understand what you're saying, but it's important to keep in mind that diversity isn't the only reason pokemon are banned, it's just one of many reasons. Something being absurdly powerful (ie: Kyogre) is another reason. Being able to flawlessly support a teammate without the opponent being able to answer is another reason. (See: Shadow Tag). Along with several other reasons. (See: Drizzle + Swift Swim, Baton Pass on more than one pokemon).
I also think there's a key difference between banning Ferrothorn and banning Aegislash: Pokemon don't just get banned because they're used a lot. In the entire history of the game, the only pokemon I can think of off the top of my head where this happened was with Genesect in BW OU, where it was literally used on HALF of teams in OU. This is clearly a very special case, otherwise banning a pokemon for a lot of usage just doesn't happen. There needs to be some other factor. Pokemon do get banned because they have an extremely limited amount of counters, and this puts a heavy strain on teambuilding. If we banned pokemon just because they were used a lot, we would be banning Aegislash's counters in an attempt to force people to use different ones instead of banning Aegislash itself
So there's many reasons that pokemon can be banned, things like Mawile or Aegislash get scrutinized the most because they aren't "un-counterable." To be honest, I can understand why people question bans like this the most because the effect that they have on the game isn't as painfully obvious as something like Kyogre would have, so the bans seem to come out of left field at times, but there are reasons behind everything. I promise. It might seem like it, but smogon doesn't just throw darts to see what gets banned
^^^ I understand what you mean, and what Smogon is doing, but if smogon bans things to make teams more diverse then more things should be ban.(I know things are banned for being to strong but based on you previous post you say its for diverity) Based on your previous post ferrothorn should be banned, it is nearly on every team i face which causes people to carry magnezones or Zaptos'. Those three pokes by them selves are on most teams, Celfable is another that should be banned based on that logic. I know you can say, They are easily countered and arent that strong but based on you previous post you say,
I understand what you're saying, but it's important to keep in mind that diversity isn't the only reason pokemon are banned, it's just one of many reasons. Something being absurdly powerful (ie: Kyogre) is another reason. Being able to flawlessly support a teammate without the opponent being able to answer is another reason. (See: Shadow Tag). Along with several other reasons. (See: Drizzle + Swift Swim, Baton Pass on more than one pokemon).
I also think there's a key difference between banning Ferrothorn and banning Aegislash: Pokemon don't just get banned because they're used a lot. In the entire history of the game, the only pokemon I can think of off the top of my head where this happened was with Genesect in BW OU, where it was literally used on HALF of teams in OU. This is clearly a very special case, otherwise banning a pokemon for a lot of usage just doesn't happen. There needs to be some other factor. Pokemon do get banned because they have an extremely limited amount of counters, and this puts a heavy strain on teambuilding. If we banned pokemon just because they were used a lot, we would be banning Aegislash's counters in an attempt to force people to use different ones instead of banning Aegislash itself
So there's many reasons that pokemon can be banned, things like Mawile or Aegislash get scrutinized the most because they aren't "un-counterable." To be honest, I can understand why people question bans like this the most because the effect that they have on the game isn't as painfully obvious as something like Kyogre would have, so the bans seem to come out of left field at times, but there are reasons behind everything. I promise. It might seem like it, but smogon doesn't just throw darts to see what gets banned