Star Wars - "Episode VII: The Force Awakens", spin-off movies & "Rebels"

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

Meh, I've seen a lot of episodes from the Clone Wars, and although they weren't really bad, under no circumstances would I consider them canon. It interferes with the lives of many characters and raises a lot of questions if it is canon (I have a long time to watch the films, but wasn't Amidala's and Anakin's relationship a secret? Doesn't look like it in the Clone Wars). Ashoka Tano, Aayla Secura, Plo Koon... I do recall a Jedi with Aayla's and a Jedi with Plo's model dying in Episode III, but not an Ashoka-like character. Furthermore, Ashoka in the Clone Wars is presented as Anakin's student, while in the films no mention of Anakin having a student is included. Ashoka is actually the biggest problem in the Clone Wars-a seemingly major character that has no outside mentions and just disappears.

No, Anakin's and Padmé's relation and marriage (if I recall it correctly, this last one is only mentioned in the "Lost season" /season 6 and once in one of the episodes about the Banking Clan) is still a secret but, again, since this is a children's show, a knight and a damsell in distress is needed, along with moments of care and bonding. The thing was very clear, Obi-Wan was there and yet no suspicion, no nothing, it's "sith lord in the same room with 7 or so Jedis, including Yoda and Mace Windu and no one feels a disturbance in the Force, no one notes the sith decoration" again. It's an elephant but apparently it's invisible, despite stinking.
Not only that but in the comic books, Bariss Offee is killed as a result of Order 66, but here she turns into a dark Jedi.

PS: and yes, Plo Koon did died above the skies of Cato Neimoidia and Aayla in Felucia if I recall it correctly. Of course Ashoka wasn't showed dying because she didn't existed back then. Ashoka was created for the animated movie "The Clone Wars" that was turned into a movie to make a bridge with the animated series, because the movie originally was just a couple of episodes from the ani. series.

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In the clone wars's ending, ahsoka is framed for terrorism and the jedi pursue her, clears her name and then leaves the order, leaving anakin wish some amount of hatred for the jedi, I think.

It would seem an aproppriate closure that leaves everything in place and gives anakin some more reason to turn on the jedi later.

That said.

No thrawn, no mysteries of the sith and no KOTOR?

JJ abrams better f****** deliver something astoundingly magnificent, or there will be blood.

That would be all and well expect for one thing: Order 66 and the Jedi purge that followed. I'm still hoping that to be explained in Rebels (I'm betting it'll be in the movies) but the way she's been treated until now is like they don't even know what to do with her. The Clone Wars ended somewhat abruptly and the creators were perhaps thinking of giving her a more proper ending, having instead give the possible ending but it left questions about Order 66 - she wouldn't die with Order 66 since she was a Jedi no more, so was she killed after or did she managed to escape and remain hidden!?

I'll be waiting to see the character rooster and trailers to decide wether or not to go watch it in movie theaters. I swear if I see Jar-Jar or Chewbacca being used as comic-relief, I won't even bother with what comes next.

PS: people talk about how the midichlorians stuff ruined the Force (kind like nanomachines in MGS4 =P), but have you seen the episode about the Father, Son and Daughter and, more recently, the ones pertaining Yoda learning how to retain himself after death? Just awful! They give an explanation to something that doesn't need one and then do come up with one about easier and more needed stuff.

Lucas and Filoni can go take a walk... and get lost.

 

[omahanime]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

JJ abrams better f****** deliver something astoundingly magnificent, or there will be blood.

I have seen all 6 films in their original release. I have trepidation for the new 3.

 

[Athena]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

I guess I already knew in my heart that they'd trample all over the EU, but there's still that twinge of pain and tears welling up in my eyes. At this point, my biggest hopes a that 1) the movies are at least entertaining; I'm not hoping for good, I'm hoping for entertaining; and 2) they at least keep some of the same cool characters with the same names and appearances so I can still cash on on some sweet merchandising. >_>

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

I guess I already knew in my heart that they'd trample all over the EU, but there's still that twinge of pain and tears welling up in my eyes. At this point, my biggest hopes a that 1) the movies are at least entertaining; I'm not hoping for good, I'm hoping for entertaining; and 2) they at least keep some of the same cool characters with the same names and appearances so I can still cash on on some sweet merchandising. >_>

It depends on how you define entertaining. That's why I'm not hoping much for the movies, at least not expecting good things.
Well, you will always cash on because some fans are disregarding this cleaning as legit and will hold on to what they knew, and that goes for material. Not only that, but what was just decanonized may now be regarded as treasures, namely for those. Also, who knows what happens in the future and if some of the material will be reused?

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

IT'S OFFICIAL: 'Star Wars: Episode VII' Cast Announced, Original Stars Returning


It's official! After months of speculation, Disney and Lucasfilm have announced the cast for "Star Wars: Episode VII."

Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, and Harrison Ford will all reprise their roles as Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker, and Han Solo in the film.

Joining them will be newcomer John Boyega, who will appear in FOX's upcoming "24: Live Another Day" miniseries; Oscar Isaac ("Inside Llewyn Davis"); and Adam Driver ("Girls").

Boyega was among the actors rumored for the lead in the sequel. Driver is expected to play the main antagonist. His character has been described to be "in the vein of iconic Darth Vader."

Previously, it was reported Peter Mayhew would return as Chewbacca. Kenny Baker and Anthony Daniels will join him reprising their roles as R2-D2 and C-3PO, respectively.

Daniels let it slip last October he may return for "Episode VII" at New York Comic Con.

Not much is known about the film's plot; however, it's rumored that Harrison Ford will have quite a large role.

Lucasfilm announced last week the new movies will deter from the expanded "Star Wars" universe. So, all the books, comics, and video games, cartoons, etc. released since “Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi” that explain what happens after the film will have little to no impact on the sequels and spin-off movies going forward.

"Star Wars: Episode VII" will be released Dec. 18, 2015.

Here's the release:

The Star Wars team is thrilled to announce the cast of Star Wars: Episode VII.

Actors John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Max von Sydow will join the original stars of the saga, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Peter Mayhew, and Kenny Baker in the new film.

Director J.J. Abrams says, "We are so excited to finally share the cast of Star Wars: Episode VII. It is both thrilling and surreal to watch the beloved original cast and these brilliant new performers come together to bring this world to life, once again. We start shooting in a couple of weeks, and everyone is doing their best to make the fans proud."

Star Wars: Episode VII is being directed by J.J. Abrams from a screenplay by Lawrence Kasdan and Abrams. Kathleen Kennedy, J.J. Abrams, and Bryan Burk are producing, and John Williams returns as the composer. The movie opens worldwide on December 18, 2015.

 

[Athena]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

I read about that yesterday. Aside from the original cast returning, I don't know any of these actors, so I can't really judge how good they'll be or anything. Maybe that's for the best, though; it'll make the characters feel more like their characters to me, rather than imagining them as someone else (for example, Samuel L. Jackson, as much as I love him, was distracting as Mace Windu because he didn't feel like Mace, he felt like a Samuel L. Jackson jedi).

 

[professorlight]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

I read about that yesterday. Aside from the original cast returning, I don't know any of these actors, so I can't really judge how good they'll be or anything. Maybe that's for the best, though; it'll make the characters feel more like their characters to me, rather than imagining them as someone else (for example, Samuel L. Jackson, as much as I love him, was distracting as Mace Windu because he didn't feel like Mace, he felt like a Samuel L. Jackson jedi).

Shush, lucas should have remade all the movies starring only samuel L. m********** jackson.

"No, luke, I am your m**********g father!"
"F****************k!"

"These are not the m***********g droids you're looking for."

"I f********g love you"
"I f********g know, bitch!"

"It's a m*********g trap!"

"I'm f*******g looking for yoda"
"Hmmm... as a bitch, does he look? hmmmmm"

"No. f*********. desintegrations."
"As you f*********g wish."

"I have f*******g altered the deal. Pray I don't f******* alter it any further."

"I find your f******g lack of faith f********g disturbing. F****!"

"Are you a f******g angel, bitch?"

"Use the f******g force, bitch!"

"I am f******g fluent in over six f******g million forms of saying f******g things, f******r."
"Ewok. Do you speak it, m***********r?!"

Just picture it, and despair, at the sight of the greatness we will never get.

Picture it:

[img width=900 height=]http://i.imgur.com/aoxmjig.jpg[/img]

Instead we got jar jar.

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

I read about that yesterday. Aside from the original cast returning, I don't know any of these actors, so I can't really judge how good they'll be or anything. Maybe that's for the best, though; it'll make the characters feel more like their characters to me, rather than imagining them as someone else (for example, Samuel L. Jackson, as much as I love him, was distracting as Mace Windu because he didn't feel like Mace, he felt like a Samuel L. Jackson jedi).

I feel the same way. I don't know any of the new cast and I see that as a positive thing.
Whenever I saw Samuel I'd always remember "Shaft". -_-

Btw, I just take a look at the wikipedia page about the Star Wars films' cast and the actor that portrays Palpatine/Sidious is listed for the new trilogy. I just hope it's wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_films_cast_members

I remember reading a couple of news that listed Adam Driver as the villain. Do you think that, without any mask or the villain being from an alien race, he's suited for the role!? Looking at his face I just can't imagine it, and it seems that it might end up as the poor choices for Anakin's role (both child and young adult)!

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I read about that yesterday. Aside from the original cast returning, I don't know any of these actors, so I can't really judge how good they'll be or anything. Maybe that's for the best, though; it'll make the characters feel more like their characters to me, rather than imagining them as someone else (for example, Samuel L. Jackson, as much as I love him, was distracting as Mace Windu because he didn't feel like Mace, he felt like a Samuel L. Jackson jedi).

Shush, lucas should have remade all the movies starring only samuel L. m********** jackson.

"No, luke, I am your m**********g father!"
"F****************k!"

"These are not the m***********g droids you're looking for."

"I f********g love you"
"I f********g know, bitch!"

"It's a m*********g trap!"

"I'm f*******g looking for yoda"
"Hmmm... as a bitch, does he look? hmmmmm"

"No. f*********. desintegrations."
"As you f*********g wish."

"I have f*******g altered the deal. Pray I don't f******* alter it any further."

"I find your f******g lack of faith f********g disturbing. F****!"

"Are you a f******g angel, bitch?"

"Use the f******g force, bitch!"

"I am f******g fluent in over six f******g million forms of saying f******g things, f******r."
"Ewok. Do you speak it, m***********r?!"

Just picture it, and despair, at the sight of the greatness we will never get.

Picture it:

[img width=900 height=]http://i.imgur.com/aoxmjig.jpg[/img]

Instead we got jar jar.

I would love to see Mace replacing Qui-Gon in that scene in Anakin's mother's house (The Phantom Menace), where he would just grab Jar-Jar's tongue and squeeze it with Jar-Jar in pain, igniting his lightsaber and saying "YOU WANT TO DIE? YOU WANT TO DIE RIGHT NOW? MAKE A MOVE! DO IT! DO IT AND DIE!"
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Jar-Jar moves and the next two movies and the Clone Wars series are far bearable! U_U

 

[Familiar]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

Does the J.J. in J.J. Abrams stand for Jar-Jar?

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

Does the J.J. in J.J. Abrams stand for Jar-Jar?

That was veeeery funny! I had a good laugh!

 

[beebahboo]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

I feel like Disney and Abrams are completely aware of the pressures that are on them.
They certainly don't want to disappoint. They are supposed to use less cgi and more real props in production (what they do in post-production is a totally different story). I like to have confidence that these movies will be good. Everyone knows how ep.1 and ep.2 went down, and everyone is aware of how they were received. It would be foolish of Disney and Abrams to tailor to kids (in any way really), I'm sorry but Star Wars isn't for kids, and making it for such dumbs it down so much it hurts. The best news so far is the return and proper send off of Luke, Leia, and Han. Second best would be that the new characters are essentially unknown actors/actresses.
Canon this, canon that, I just want some kickass Star Wars movies. Canon is important and all, I've read a lot of the books, played knights, academy, and old republic, so canon is definitely important to me, but who really cares if Chewy didn't die in this telling.

 

[omahanime]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

I would loved to hear Jackson say "I have had it with these monkey-fighting Ewoks on this Monday-to-Friday planet"

 

[Suikun]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

After looking at the cast photo, I really don't have an opinion on this cast tbh. It seems like a good mixture of talent and experience...I guess I just have to leave my trust in Abrams and Disney. I think he did a great job with Star Trek considering I really didn't like the show. He made it entertaining..lens flares aside. XD I'm still trying to imagine what kind of story we'd see come to life from these actors, and I've got nothing. Guess that's why I'm not in the business as they call it. Do they go with the Thrawn trilogy? Who knows? And I guess I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed episodes 1 and 2 as a child. I was 10 at the time that episode 1 came out. I wasn't fond of Jar Jar, but didn't hate him either. Now that I've seen them over and over again as an adult however, I tend to agree with the majority that they weren't as good as I remembered. I was a kid...I liked lightsabers and seeing Anakin transform into Vader. XD

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

After looking at the cast photo, I really don't have an opinion on this cast tbh. It seems like a good mixture of talent and experience...I guess I just have to leave my trust in Abrams and Disney. I think he did a great job with Star Trek considering I really didn't like the show. He made it entertaining..lens flares aside. XD I'm still trying to imagine what kind of story we'd see come to life from these actors, and I've got nothing. Guess that's why I'm not in the business as they call it. Do they go with the Thrawn trilogy? Who knows? And I guess I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed episodes 1 and 2 as a child. I was 10 at the time that episode 1 came out. I wasn't fond of Jar Jar, but didn't hate him either. Now that I've seen them over and over again as an adult however, I tend to agree with the majority that they weren't as good as I remembered. I was a kid...I liked lightsabers and seeing Anakin transform into Vader. XD

Since the "canon clean-up", those materials will only serve as inspiration so something from the Thrawn trilogy might appear but nut like it was in the first place or you might get to see something familiar either in plot themes or the plot itself.

I've enjoyed Episode I but only because of Qui-Gon (had I known his demise was at the end I wouldn't watch it) the Consular ship and the Trade Federation ones, because the actor portraying Aakin was cringeworthy, namely when yelling "Yupee". Episode II felt like a soap and in III I can only watch until the Invisible Hand's crash and then Order 66. I share your feeling that as a child it was more likeable, now it leaves some bitterness.

PS: I forgot to tell that not only I don't know anything of the new cast but I also don't have any opinion on Abrams. It's really waiting to teel, namely for the trailers and then for the movie itself.

PS2: at least Williams will still score the movie so I expect to have some listening pleasure! =D

 

[Suikun]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

Yea, I guess we'll have to wait and see. Disney has usually been very good when it comes to information leaks, so we probably won't know too much until a trailer is released. :3

Episode I was all about Qui-Gon and Obi Wan fighting Darth Maul for me. Maul was actually not a bad idea for a sith in my opinion. I think he could've had a better story arc in the movies than Dooku or Grievous. And let's not even talk about the midi-chlorians...XD Episode II was just a time suck for me as a child. I wanted action...I wanted adventure. And to wait until two thirds of the movie is over for it just kind of killed it for me. And now as an adult, I don't really appreciate it any more than I used to. It's just a film amongst many at this point for me.

I believe Abrams will do a good job. I've managed to listen to a few of his interviews, and he seems genuine in the fact that he is a true fan and that he wants to bring some new life into the Star Wars universe. It looks likes he's hired the right people (Lawrence Kasdan and John Williams) as well. We'll all have to wait and see it seems, but at least we can speculate until then.

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

Yea, I guess we'll have to wait and see. Disney has usually been very good when it comes to information leaks, so we probably won't know too much until a trailer is released. :3

Episode I was all about Qui-Gon and Obi Wan fighting Darth Maul for me. Maul was actually not a bad idea for a sith in my opinion. I think he could've had a better story arc in the movies than Dooku or Grievous. And let's not even talk about the midi-chlorians...XD Episode II was just a time suck for me as a child. I wanted action...I wanted adventure. And to wait until two thirds of the movie is over for it just kind of killed it for me. And now as an adult, I don't really appreciate it any more than I used to. It's just a film amongst many at this point for me.

I believe Abrams will do a good job. I've managed to listen to a few of his interviews, and he seems genuine in the fact that he is a true fan and that he wants to bring some new life into the Star Wars universe. It looks likes he's hired the right people (Lawrence Kasdan and John Williams) as well. We'll all have to wait and see it seems, but at least we can speculate until then.

Throw in there, along with the midi-chlorians, the chosen one prophecy that goes until the duel between Obi and Ani in the last movie and it gets worse.
Maul just had one problem: he survived! I seriously can't...well I can (perhaps some Dark-side Force power), but accepting it is harder...I was saying that I can't understand how Qui-Gon died from a blade wound that if I remember correctly wasn't near the heart and Maul survives being cut in half and falling a shaft. But yes, Maul had potencial, unlike Count Dooku (despite liking it) and Griveous, the first because he didn't looked like a Sith lord, just a noble that turned to the Dark Side out of dissapointment (perhaps he was just hiding his true power like Palpatine/Sidious but that isn't explained) and Grievous, while cunning, had a short screen time and didn't seemed like a menace, just a smart thinker... I think this last one would benefict if they had shown him decapitating or stabbing some Jedi or even a couple of them.

PS: Btw, the whole «Sidious the great schemer vs The foolish, blind and dummy Jedi who can't see what was very suspicious because "it's clouded"» plot is just awful. The new movie should be about the new Jedi order and I hope they don't follow that plot again.

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

New "Rebels" trailer.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_soLH5MWGOg[/video]

It seems Stormtroopers still have pretty weak armor!

 

[PG24]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

This cast really has me excited. Outside of the old geezers, there's really not a huge name out there. This means that we're really left in the dark on how well they'll carry out their roles, nor can we criticize them by looking at previous works. I trust Abrams' cast picks in almost every thing he makes, so hopefully this is no exception.

• I watched Attack the Block finally to see what type of actor John Boyega is. He's pretty good, so there's one good cast member. Biggest thing I've heard as a possibility is him playing the role of a Jedi apprentice along with the other young cast members. The whole young age feel to the cast leads me to believe this will be based on the Jedi academy, with the entire trilogy having a different take on the Star Wars typical "passing the torch" through these young Jedi.
• Oscar Isaac idk.
• Max von Sydow is a great choice for cast. Due to his age, I'm unsure what role he can play. Emperor-ish guy, old Imperial ruminant general, Jedi master, I really don't know. Whatever he plays, he won't disappoint.
• Andy Serkis is perfect. You can't do any better than the king of motion capture. Really looking forward to him filling in multiple roles.
• No idea on Domhnall Gleeson. His roles in the popular Harry Potter films makes me think that Star Wars will be no trouble for him.
• I've heard praise for Adam Driver on Girls. I haven't watched a single episode or even seen a scene, but I trust the reviews I've heard on him. In my opinion, he looks the part for a Sith or villinous character, maybe even antihero if we want to speculate further.
• Daisy Ridley really looks like the mystery here. I've heard rumors that she will play the role as main protagonist (the biggest being as Abram's representation of the Solo twins) or even part of the main group the trilogy follows, which fits with the usual Star Wars theme. From clips I've seen of her, she has the voice of an angel. Her look really reminds me of the Padame / Leia look Lucas strived for in the previous trilogies, which adds to the possibility of her being a Skywalker descendent. I'm really hoping Abrams does make her the lead, as he's no stranger to doing so since Alias.

 

[omahanime]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

'Star Wars' director J.J. Abrams reveals new creature, offers chance to win movie role


The Force is with "Star Wars" fans today. Not only did director J.J. Abrams offer them a chance to win a walk-on role in "Episode VII," he also gave them a sneak peek at one of that movie's creatures.



In a YouTube video shot on the movie's Abu Dhabi set (which could pass for Tatooine...), Abrams stands amidst tents and equipment as he explains the contest for a walk-on part in the movie.

"You get to meet the cast, go behind the scenes, see the whole moviemaking process," he said. "But more than that, we'll put you in hair and makeup and wardrobe and you get to be in the movie."

The contest is to help launch the new initiative, "Star Wars: Force For Change," which Abrams said is "dedicated to finding creative solutions for some of the world's biggest problems. It's about helping kids all around the world by supporting UNICEF Innovation Labs and Programs."

Abrams directs fans to omaze.com/starwars, which offers different donation levels with corresponding rewards, from $10 to $50,000. Those donating $10 receive a "Star Wars digital badge," while those giving $50,000 get a hometown advance public screening.

But those hoping for a hint at how the new movie will look already received their reward. While Abrams speaks, a puppetlike creature walks into the frame and exchanges a glance with the director. The critter looks kind of like an elderly bearded turtle, and is carrying on his back a complicated pile of crates, one of which is carrying what appear to be a half-dozen long-necked birds of some kind. We're assuming this is one of Luke and Leia's new friends — or enemies — but we've got a long wait to find out. "Star Wars: Episode VII" opens Dec. 18, 2015

 

[Leaf_Ranger]

RE: Star Wars - "Episode VII" and "Rebels" Discussion Thread

'Gareth Edwards and Gary Whitta Onboard for Star Wars Stand-Alone Film

Gareth Edwards and Gary Whitta Onboard for Star Wars Stand-Alone FilmMay 22, 2014 In addition to the episodes of a new Star Wars trilogy, Lucasfilm and Disney have begun development on multiple stand-alone movies that will offer new stories beyond the core Saga. Gareth Edwards will direct the first stand-alone film, with a screenplay by Gary Whitta. The film is due out December 16, 2016.

Gareth Edwards blazed into the filmmaking forefront with his acclaimed work on Monsters, a film he wrote, directed and served on as cinematographer and visual effects artist. The skill and vision readily apparent in Monsters earned him the high-profile spot directing this year's smash hit Godzilla.

"Ever since I saw Star Wars I knew exactly what I wanted to do for the rest of my life -- join the Rebel Alliance! I could not be more excited and honored to go on this mission with Lucasfilm," said Edwards.

Gary Whitta's screenwriting credits include 2010's The Book of Eli starring Denzel Washington. He is also well known as a journalist and editor in the video game industry, as well as part of the BAFTA award-winning team on Telltale Games adaptation of The Walking Dead.

Whitta states, "From the moment I first saw the original movie as a wide-eyed kid, Star Wars has been the single most profound inspiration to my imagination and to my career as a writer. It is deeply special to me,so to be given the opportunity to contribute to its ongoing legacy, especially in collaboration with a film-maker as talented as Gareth, is literally a dream come true. I'm still pinching myself."

It seems we'll be seeing perhaps "missing links" for other media like the Clone Wars animated movie was. Let's wait (what else?) and see what comes out of this.