The Set Rotation Discussion Thread

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And Possibly RR, SV, and AR too. It's seems like they're only putting HS-on cards to balemce the meta with Japan after we get HS-on. Personally, I hope that is RR-on so I can use Flyphan after next years slower format.
 
I'm guessing HGSS on format. Their has to be a reason why they are alone reprinting HGSS on cards. They wouldnt allow use to have two completely formats two years in a row. IMO
 
If Japan has adopted an HGSS-on format if I haven't heard wrong from watching Prof-it, then how would it be fair at worlds between the different nationals if the rest of the world is still MD-on? Don't quite get it
 
With whatever decision is made about the rotation, there is one thing I see that is going to happen. The meta is heading for a downward spiral, where the only decks being played will be lostgar and counters. There will be those original people that try to run something inventive, but they will probably fail to lostgar. I am hoping that the rotation will be RR on, but whatever happens I think the games in trouble.
 
How ridiculous it is that HGSS-on is being seriously considered as a possible rotation. There is absolutely no way they are going to rotate 7 sets at once. It's ludicrous.
 
I think the next one will RR-on, which keeps them in line w/ 4 per rotation and adds some stability to the rotations which in the long run will benefit everyone. Although TBH i wouldn't mind HGSS-on b/c it completely wipes out SPs and makes the game slower etc. Anything that gets rid of PL i'll be happy w/.
 
RR-on is clearly the most likely. However, I don't think we should completely discredit a HGSS-on format. Japan has it, and it would leave us with the 4 HGSS sets, CoL, and B&W (isn't there another set before the rotation, too?). 6 or 7 sets isn't such a bad number.
 
I think HS-on. Why else would they only reprint the HS series cards?
 
I think it will be RR only, because CoL is reprinting a ton of HGSS cards and those cards will probably be playable after the rotation 2 years from no when it will be UL on
 
How ridiculous it is that HGSS-on is being seriously considered as a possible rotation. There is absolutely no way they are going to rotate 7 sets at once. It's ludicrous.
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Considering there was no rotation the year before this format, it isn't quite unfeasible.
 
My vote is for RR-on.
And to all of the people that are backing their hgss-on theory with the lone question of:
Why would they reprint only hgss cards in CoL?
Here's your answer:

This year: MD, LA, SF, PL
Next year: RR, SV, AR, HGSS <----- There's your reason.

Our format after ^this rotation would be UL-on, which would include CoL,
which would include all of the reprinted hgss pokemon.
Well those are my thoughts.
 
^Completely agree. RR-on would be the best rotation. HGSS-on, although a possibility, is unlikely because of the 4 sets per year standard.
There's no way it'll ever be B&W on. That'll leave CoL completely unexplored, and will basically render it's printing completely useless. There's also no way they'd ever just have 1 set to work with. There's to little to use.
 
^ there is more than that reason. they said they want to slow down the meta. with RR-on decks will still be way to fast. sure crobat poketurn and all that will be gone but still we will have the worst of the Sp's. Luxray, Garchomp, Blaziken. also having 9 sets after rotaion. we would have 7 when rotaion is (HGSS, UL, UD, TR, CoL, BW, BW2) and in Sept/Nov we would get set 8. that is close enough to 9. there are a couple other reasons but im lazy right now....
 
You don't get it do you? With a Rising Rivals-On format that cuts Platinum Base Set and the SP Cyrus Engine (Cyrus's Conspiracy, Power Spray, Poke Turn, & Energy Gain) from the format while leaving us with sets that haven't yet been fully been in the format for 2 years minus the Diamond/Pearl sets due to Majestic Dawn-On for which reasons are unclear according to Pokemon USA and TPCi.

Like I've said before and I'll say it again, there has never been a set in the Pokemon TCG that has been legal for just 1 Modified Season alone, every single one was legal for at least 2 seasons before rotating out of the format so yes Rising Rivals, Supreme Victors, and Arceus will stay in the format regardless that the HGSS reprints in Call of Legends is garnering hype for a HGSS-On format which would leave to just a metagame with LostGar and Counters for it.

A metagame like that would be very bad, cause players to quit the TCG, and stagnate things further. The reason for the HGSS Reprints in Call of Legends is for the upcoming Unleashed-On format after Rising Rivals-On format that crm103top08 already mentioned earlier in this thread. It makes better sense than a HGSS-On format. No Charizard? phmph... No Bebe's Search and Palmer's? No Absol G Lv. X tech against LostGar? See where I'm getting at? We'd also lose Expert Belt as well.
 
^ Nintendo doesnt like where the meta is going and wants to make a drastic change. thus reason for a HGSS-on rotation. AND if we get BW in april that is even more reason for a HGSS-on rotation. that is a month earlier that expected thus giving us our last set for the year in August which gives them time for at least one more set. they said they want at least 4 sets a year. now if they make 5 sets this year then that will leave us with 13 sets at the end of the year which is there goal. if its RR-on then we have 16 sets at the end of the year...which is alot. cutting those 3 sets RR, SV, AR puts us at the magical 13 sets at the end of the year that they want.

TBH both theories are reasonable. there is reason for RR-on and reason for HGSS-on but im leaning more toward HGSS. also why would they cut the base set of the "Legends Sets" (i couldnt think of a better word) and leave the other 3. its not eve just HGSS reprints in CoL its all the sets UL, UD, TR. that is for next year if they do HGSS on we will still have some of the cards from those 4 sets in out BW-on decks.
 
catutie said:
^ Nintendo doesnt like where the meta is going and wants to make a drastic change. thus reason for a HGSS-on rotation.
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They have never said any such thing.

catutie said:
AND if we get BW in April that is even more reason for a HGSS-on rotation. that is a month earlier that expected thus giving us our last set for the year in August which gives them time for at least one more set. they said they want at least 4 sets a year. now if they make 5 sets this year then that will leave us with 13 sets at the end of the year which is there goal. if its RR-on then we have 16 sets at the end of the year...which is alot. cutting those 3 sets RR, SV, AR puts us at the magical 13 sets at the end of the year that they want.
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BW is going to be released in April, but they absolutely do not have time for "one more set". If they release it a month earlier and shift the entire schedule, then a set will be released in July, and another in October. If they don't, then August and November. Either way, there will still only be 4 sets this year. That will leave us with 13 sets INCLUDING MD, LA, etc. They rotate MD-PL giving us 9, then next August we end the season with 13 sets again. We will never have 16 sets at the end of the year; I don't know where you got that number.

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TBH both theories are reasonable. there is reason for RR-on and reason for HGSS-on but im leaning more toward HGSS. also why would they cut the base set of the "Legends Sets" (i couldnt think of a better word) and leave the other 3. its not eve just HGSS reprints in CoL its all the sets UL, UD, TR. that is for next year if they do HGSS on we will still have some of the cards from those 4 sets in out BW-on decks.
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They do RR-on, then UL-on. PL-on is HIGHLY unlikely, even though that's the base Platinum set. So, if RR-on is a major possibility, then HGSS-on can't be. UL-on would make far more sense.

In any case, the last two years of rotation have been unpredictable, as nobody expected the lack of rotation and nobody expected MD-on (well the majority didn't, at least). There is a possibility it could be something like SV-on or some weirdness.
 
If the reason they are reprinting HGSS cards in CoL is because it will be UL-on sometime, why are Triumphant cards being reprinted as well?
 
or another probability is, following the theory of why does CoL have weird reprints:

2011/2012 Rotation cut: MD, LA, SF
2012/2013 Rotation cut (assuming the world has not ended yet [/joke]): PT, RR, AR, HGSS (keeping CoL)
2013/2014 Rotation cut: Rest of HSSS block, plus CoL

This conforms to the theory of cutting either the entire or half a block, since despite how PT-on would be busted, RR-on would be just weird.
 
I'm predicting we're going to end up following in Japan's footsteps and rotate over to an HGSS-on format. It would be a real nice change of pace. Something thats actually playable as well, not no SP bull
 
^There wouldn't be much SP at all if we went to RR-on. The entire engine goes away for the most part, so it has lots less speed and is just slightly powerful basics that don't do great together. Because they lose Cyrus and some TGIs, they lose a huge advantage in being SP.
 
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