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Machamp is just for getting around SP's (Legoes especially) and Mr. Mime. Of course, if I wanted to play around Mr. Mime I could tech a random DCE... but I don't know if it would work XD.

I was thinking about some Cherims or Pokedrawer if I were to take out Machamp. Which, in fact, I'm planning to. I'm not fond of Lumineon and Honchkrow since they have to be active to use their power.
 
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I'd keep a 2-1-2 machamp because of spiritomb. If it was 1-0-1 you couldn't counter spiritomb which really slows jumpluff down. Also mr. mime blocks damage not effects so machamp helps here too.
 
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DCE doesn´t bypass Mr. Mime. Read it, it says energy cards, not energies.
 
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Then it might be worth keeping Machamp in then if DCE doesn't work against Mime...

I'll test out the deck without Machamp and see how it does. I think 1-0-1 might be just fine.
 
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Blaine said:
DCE doesn´t bypass Mr. Mime. Read it, it says energy cards, not energies.
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Good find but I still think that machamp is needed to just take out Sp's and the unsupecting Spirtioomb lol Pokeblower might be a good thing for Jumpchamp you get the snipping like you need. Also do not use luminion or honch that is just kind of fail. Anyway I still have not been to league to test my deck so wait until then.

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I´ll have to test the deck a bit to help more. Anyway, what do you think is a better for Plox, using Palkia G and Pixies or w/ Dusknoir and/or Palkia LV.X?
 
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I think that plox would be best with dusknoir and nidoqueen.
 
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I also like to run both, thing is, I can only play 4 Candies. I though of getting rid of the Palkia LV.X to add a Water Arceus and a Ditto (for Donphan and Flygon respectively).
 
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Through some more testing with my Jumpluff deck, I actually don't need to take out Machamp. It seriously does help out against Spiritomb a lot, and SP's in general (surprise Machop+Candy+Machamp+Fighting can hurt some SP's.) Dusknoir is still a problem, as you have to basically setup right to KO Dusknoir (get a good Luxray GL Lv.X up, and hope they don't Warp Point/Switch.) But I'm keeping Machamp.
 
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Wait, you need 2 turns to KO a Dusknoir? As I see it, as long as your opponent has at least 3 Pokémons in his/her bench and you have E-Belt, you get the OHKO on Dusknoir (60 from your bench+40 from your opponent+20 from E-Belt=120). You need Poké Turn, however.
 
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Why would I be able to add 60 damage from my bench? Against Dusknoir, they would obviously Dark Palm my bench (unless I can get my basics out again.)
 
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The idea is that once you get Dusknoir Active, you play a full bench to OHKO it (as no deck I know run more than a 1-0-1 Dusknoir line) and then you don´t have to worry about Dark Palm as you´ve already KOed Dusknoir. I thought it was obvious. Maybe it wasn´t. >_<
 
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Yeah, I knew that. It's what I've been doing against Dusknoir. But the problem is that I have to get out a full bench after they Dark Palm. It could work, or it could not. Depends on the hand/how many Pokemon is on the bench.
 
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Doesn´t you only need a Roseanne´s/Collector to get a full bench? If you also have a Communicator, you´ve got a full bench + Luxray Gl LV.X in 2 turns. IMO, the best card against Dusknoir (along with Luxray GL LV.X) is Super Scoop Up. Otherwise, the opponent will always Dark Palm Luxray the turn you lay it down, making it impossible to you to use Bright Look until your Jumpluff is KOed. If you SSU a benched tech you don´t need, you can make space for Luxray without your opponent being able to Dark Palm it. Also, SSU helps Jumpluff itself. If it´s about to be KOed you just SSU it an save 2 Prizes (probably because of E-Belt), and that helps in any match-up (but against Spiritomb/Dialga, and you can already deal with them). As Jumpluff only needs an energy, it doesn´t hinders you. Don´t take my word, though, I haven´t tested Jumpluff and I don´t know how tight is a (your) Jumpluff list.
 
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My list is pretty tight. Making room for SSU... is tough. But the Dusknoir on the Luxray thing is something that hasn't really happened to me yet, so I'll have to see what would happen. Judging by the way you said it, if all goes way that plan should work. There is, of course, the problem is limited Collector/Roseanne's. But by then I could already be sweeping them.
 
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Cool banners. I'm going to use the one with the Rayquaza. Also, is Kingdra Prime coming out in the next set?
 
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Shadowwiidragon said:
Cool banners. I'm going to use the one with the Rayquaza. Also, is Kingdra Prime coming out in the next set?
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You don't need to post saying you are using a banner, SWD.

Kingdra Prime is not going to be in the HGSS set. Prime Kingdra is either going to be in our Spring set, or our Fall set.

On the terms of my Jumpluff deck, I've made some changes. I'm still keeping Machamp, but I changed a few cards to add some speed. Hoping to get an SP matchup soon...
 
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Hey guys, I'm thinking of playing Charizard once ninetails from HGSS comes out and was wondering if I should play a 1-0-1 Exploud SV for Feraligator Prime. I was also wondering how to put the banners into my signature.
 
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CyndaquilMaster said:
Hey guys, I'm thinking of playing Charizard once ninetails from HGSS comes out and was wondering if I should play a 1-0-1 Exploud SV for Feraligator Prime. I was also wondering how to put the banners into my signature.
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Wait until you get a better view of your meta. If Gatr is popular, then add Exploud. If not, then no Exploud. But following what PokeChamp said, you should add Exploud to be safe than sorry XD.

And to add a banner to your sig, follow this:
Code: 
[img]BANNER URL HERE[/img]
 
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Suicune and Entei Legend Is bassically a blastoise but requires less energy and is a legend. Even though its a legend it ended up coming out faster in testing. another thing is that you can use it with ninetails, but it does pretty bad with it...
 
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