XY The Two Legendary Pokémon

[BassoonBro]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I'm quite adamant that Yveltal will be Dark/Flying

So you're saying as you level up you attack stat increases slighty at the cost of your special attack? Lol. Just kidding. I'm fine with that typing. Be better if it was something unexpected though. Thats why I like Xerneas, so many possibilities. But out of the two, I would choose Yveltal. Looks cooler.

 

[Ysmir]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

Jic you guys haven't seen the front page.

http://pokebeach.com/

Xerneas is 3 meters tall. Which is 9'8" ft. Weight is 215 kg = 473 lbs.
Yvetltal is 5.8 meters tall. Which is 19'2" ft. 203 kg = 447 lbs.
They didn't list their typing nor abilities interestingly.

 

[Chocolate Death]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

well, now with the new art, the 2 colored eye thing has been proven wrong for both. also, check out Xerneas' tail, feet, back, and most importantly... the antlers.

the tail's shape is different than how it looked in the trailer. the back has spots on it matching those of it's rainbow antlers. its feet look like angled hooves with a blade through them. the antlers themselves seem to be a boney color, and the colorful things look like antlers growing out of other antlers. also, guessing by the fact that the bottom bit of the colored part is a different shade of the rest of the colored antler, i'm guessing that the colors might be cycling in-game? who knows?

oh, and, btw guys... Yveltal IS NOT, most likely, almost twice as large as Xerneas. They likely measured it from the tip of its nose to the tip of its tail claw, like how they measured Dratini and Arbok and such

 

[SuperArtNinja]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

It is blurry, yes, but notice the hints of red.

Those "hints of red" are in the Sclera rather than the Iris where they would need to be for it to be a red eye, the Iris is clearly blue like the other eye. Also if you check the "red" bits with a program like MS Paint, they're actually varius shades of grey.

First, thank you for seeing that which I was trying to explain.

Secondly, I feel this is like with Reshiram. Remember how everyone thought Reshiram was gonna be some new "light type" Pokemon? Well, I think Xerneas is going to be some sort of new or rare type combo. I think Grass/Steel would be wonderful... Or how about Grass/Dragon? Think about that, Grass is a natural type, and Dragon type is explained as "mystic and full of vitality" in the games... Wouldn't that be a rather fitting type for a being of life? I can't say anything about Yveltal... Flying/Dark sounds good, but how about Dark/Poison or Dragon/Poison? If Yveltal is a being of death, I think those types would be good. They are definitely more unique and less obvious. A lot of us thought Zekrom was Dark/Dragon at first glance, so I think it would be less obvious, right?

 

[Rayquaza-XD]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I'm thinking Xerteas is a grass/steel type now, mainly because of the legs. Also, just to note, Xerneas looks much darker colors than what it looks like in the trailer. I'm quite doubtful it is psychic now.

Edit: After more observation and thought, perhaps Xerneas is a defensive mascot? Lugia is the only defensive mascot so far, so if Xerneas were a defensive mascot, a grass/steel typing would help it, right? Also, I still think Yveltal is dark/flying.

 

[Mitja]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

From the sugimori I became no wieser to Xerneas' type.

Actually the opposite LOL

I'm thinking now it could even be part Rock with those mineral-like things on its antlers...or heck perhaps even a secondary Electric xDDDDDdd....

But I'm 100% on Grass at least, still.

 

[oakbark]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

How about Yveltal is Dark, and Xerneas is Psychic? It'd be like Groudon/Kyogre with single typings.

 

[Pokequaza]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

about the new type thing, an Astro, Light, Virus, or Digital type is a horrible idea.

Astro seems to be what people just want Deoxys and Palkia to be
Light is what people want to be the type that's powerful attacking dark and vise versa
Virus and Digital seem to be more Porygon related


all 3 are bad ideas because
Astro wouldn't be for many pokemon unless they made quite a few space pokemon, and there's already a few space related pokemon (Clefairy, Deoxys, Palkia), but that would make it seem very unfair, like there should be a type for time for pokemon lik Dialga

Light is bad because it's extremely unoriginal, it seems to be exactly like dark, except it's weak to and strong against it, strong against ghost and poison, and weak against bug and psychic (basically, reversed weaknesses). besides, what kind of moves could it have? most likely it would be mainly status moves, and maybe a special or two.

Virus and Digital are extremely close to Digimon. it's bad enough people get them confused from time to time, but think of how many pokemon would even use the type. Maybe just the Porygon family, and possibly Genesect

You do know that the Dark-type not should not be taken literally as 'dark'? The Dark-type in the Japanese games is translated to 'Evil-type', which is exactly what it is. It represents those who fight in an unfair manner; Pursuit, Beat Up, Taunt.. Just as what all the Dark-type moves refer to. Fighting is therefore super-effective on Dark (and Dark not very-effective on Fighting), because; those who battle in a honourable way will vanquish those who do not (Dark-type). In other words, a Light-type as a counter for Dark doesn't make any sense, as Dark is not meant as the absense of light, but as a dark style of fighting, with its actual counter-type: Fighting.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

You do know that the Dark-type not should not be taken literally as 'dark'? The Dark-type in the Japanese games is translated to 'Evil-type', which is exactly what it is. It represents those who fight in an unfair manner; Pursuit, Beat Up, Taunt.. Just as what all the Dark-type moves refer to. Fighting is therefore super-effective on Dark (and Dark not very-effective on Fighting), because; those who battle in a honourable way will vanquish those who do not (Dark-type). In other words, a Light-type as a counter for Dark doesn't make any sense, as Dark is not meant as the absense of light, but as a dark style of fighting, with its actual counter-type: Fighting.

Then...What is these Scraggy and Scrafty? They are gangster pokemon, but they aren't only Dark type. They are also Fighting type, but it doesn't make them any more honorable.
And Darkrai, being known as the "Pitch-Black Pokemon," actually could be the "absence of light." And therefore would be weak to a potential "Light" type.

 

[oakbark]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

Then...What is these Scraggy and Scrafty? They are gangster pokemon, but they aren't only Dark type. They are also Fighting type, but it doesn't make them any more honorable.
And Darkrai, being known as the "Pitch-Black Pokemon," actually could be the "absence of light." And therefore would be weak to a potential "Light" type.

As was said previously, Dark-type is more about 'fighting dirty' with moves like Pursuit and Beat Up. Fighting-type is more about martial arts and being trained to use those methods. Scraggy and Scrafty know martial arts, but also 'fight dirty', which explains their dual typing. A pokemon like Houndoom would fight, but wouldn't use martial arts, which makes them Dark-type (and not Fighting-type).

And I would imagine hurting your opponent in their dreams (where they can't fight back) is a wholly unfair type of fighting, and makes Darkrai a Dark-type because of that.

 

[jynxed]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

Jic you guys haven't seen the front page.

http://pokebeach.com/

Xerneas is 3 meters tall. Which is 9'8" ft. Weight is 215 kg = 473 lbs.
Yvetltal is 5.8 meters tall. Which is 19'2" ft. 203 kg = 447 lbs.
They didn't list their typing nor abilities interestingly.

Hmmm, if Yveltal is so much longer than Xerneas but lighter, it seems like there's no question that it's a Flying-type since birds are naturally so light. Also it could mean Xerneas is part Steel-type since it's so heavy.

 

[Ysmir]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

Well you may be right but also think just like you said since it's a bird it's naturally light meaning both could be different types cause 500 lbs when you think of it ain't much. Also gotta consider most birds bones are flexible and hollow. Xerneas being some sort of mammal could be heavier just cause it's body supports solid bone.

 

[Metalizard]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

Just quoting myself from the other thread...

I've been waiting for the Sugimori artwork... And my opinion is still the same... I already liked Yveltal but now it looks even more awesome. But Xerneas... seriously, it still doesn't convence me. How the hell can this anorexic deer be a (most likely) 680-BST cover legendary? If it was bulkier, maybe I would buy it (I think Sawsbuck would even look better as a legendary). Also, its horns look so disproportionally big compared to the rest of its body, it's weird.

Also, I'm gonna make a guess for the typings too... I believe on the theory that Yveltal represens death while Xerneas represents life. So, for Yveltal, Dark/Flying is the more obvious... As for Xerneas, it doesn't really look Grass to me. It has no trace of any vegetation on its body. Due to its legs it kinda looks like a Steel-type but a Steel-type representing life is awkward to say the least. Still, due to its coloration, I'm gonna risk Water/Steel, or because of its multi-colored antlers, Psychic/Steel.

 

[SuperArtNinja]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I'm thinking Xerneas is Grass/Electric now. It makes so much sense to me. It would explain the lack of vegetation on its body too. It would account for its sleek look, the glowing spots, the coloration... It also makes sense from a biological sort of view. Electricity is energy, which all living things need and it's a grass type making it more natural. I think it would be the best guess...

 

[Rayquaza-XD]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

Just quoting myself from the other thread...

I've been waiting for the Sugimori artwork... And my opinion is still the same... I already liked Yveltal but now it looks even more awesome. But Xerneas... seriously, it still doesn't convence me. How the hell can this anorexic deer be a (most likely) 680-BST cover legendary? If it was bulkier, maybe I would buy it (I think Sawsbuck would even look better as a legendary). Also, its horns look so disproportionally big compared to the rest of its body, it's weird.

Also, I'm gonna make a guess for the typings too... I believe on the theory that Yveltal represens death while Xerneas represents life. So, for Yveltal, Dark/Flying is the more obvious... As for Xerneas, it doesn't really look Grass to me. It has no trace of any vegetation on its body. Due to its legs it kinda looks like a Steel-type but a Steel-type representing life is awkward to say the least. Still, due to its coloration, I'm gonna risk Water/Steel, or because of its multi-colored antlers, Psychic/Steel.

I assumed Xerneas had a grass subtype because in the trailer, Yveltal was seen in the sky, thus a flying subtype(also since it's a giant bird), and Xerneas was seen in a forest, thus a grass subtype. Also, grass does represent life in a way, doesn't it (just what i assumed)?

 

[jynxed]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I'm actually starting to doubt the Steel typing now when before I was so for it. Xerneas is the second shortest mascot (after Zekrom, who weighs 130 kg more than it). I understand that Xerneas is very very slim, but if it had a Steel typing wouldn't it weigh closer to Zekrom? It's .1m taller but 130 kg lighter. Ugh I should stop focusing on the heights and weights since they clearly don't mean anything (looking at you, Wailord).

 

[Metalizard]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I assumed Xerneas had a grass subtype because in the trailer, Yveltal was seen in the sky, thus a flying subtype(also since it's a giant bird), and Xerneas was seen in a forest, thus a grass subtype. Also, grass does represent life in a way, doesn't it (just what i assumed)?

I also said Water because Water sort of represents life too... and since there's no vegetation on its body... Water is the next best thing... Also, I read somewhere that the deer of the norse mythology had something to do with water springs or something like that...

I'm actually starting to doubt the Steel typing now when before I was so for it. Xerneas is the second shortest mascot (after Zekrom, who weighs 130 kg more than it). I understand that Xerneas is very very slim, but if it had a Steel typing wouldn't it weigh closer to Zekrom? It's .1m taller but 130 kg lighter. Ugh I should stop focusing on the heights and weights since they clearly don't mean anything (looking at you, Wailord).

Yeah, I don't know if we can take those details into consideration very much... for example, I know Giratina-A has a massive physical body but I always thought it was strange that it is a ghost-type and at the same time the second heaviest pokémon... and it can fly...

 

[wolfman967]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I personally like Yveltal because it reminds me of a dragon-bird combo, and one of my favorite types is Dragon, besides Water, Poison, + Dark. Red is one of my favorite colors anyway. I'm speculating Yvetal to be a Dark, Flying, or Dragon-type of somesort. Even if the typing is revealed soon and it isn't Dragon, I'll still like it cause its design is just so frickin' awesome!

 

[Darkraian10]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I personally like Yvetal because it reminds me of a dragon-bird combo, and one of my favorite types is Dragon, besides Water, Poison, + Dark. Red is one of my favorite colors anyway. I'm speculating Yvetal to be a Dark, Flying, or Dragon-type of somesort. Even if the typing is revealed soon and it isn't Dragon, I'll still like it cause its design is just so frickin' awesome!

Agreed! Yveltal is awesome... But i'm reaally hoping the typing will be revealed sometime soon, its driving me crazy with all this wondering!!

 

[wolfman967]

RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon

I personally like Yvetal because it reminds me of a dragon-bird combo, and one of my favorite types is Dragon, besides Water, Poison, + Dark. Red is one of my favorite colors anyway. I'm speculating Yvetal to be a Dark, Flying, or Dragon-type of somesort. Even if the typing is revealed soon and it isn't Dragon, I'll still like it cause its design is just so frickin' awesome!

Agreed! Yveltal is awesome... But i'm reaally hoping the typing will be revealed sometime soon, its driving me crazy with all this wondering!!

Im in my fanboy mode waiting for types to be revealed. Cant wait!