RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Haha lol, same!
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wolfman967 said:
Haha lol, same!
Add more to your post please.~KA
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RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Though one thing I cant figure out is Xerneas's typing. Out of all the types I cannot think of one/two types that would make sense. It looks so...random. Whatever GameFreak comes up with it better be creative. I'm really expecting a unique-type combo from it.
Darkraian10 said:
Though one thing I cant figure out is Xerneas's typing. Out of all the types I cannot think of one/two types that would make sense. It looks so...random. Whatever GameFreak comes up with it better be creative. I'm really expecting a unique-type combo from it.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Yveltal is pretty close to Lugia in size:
Yveltal - 5.8m (19.03 ft) / 203.0 kg (447.5 lbs)
Lugia - 5.2m (17.01 ft) / 216.0 kg (476.2 lbs)
Xerneas doesn't really have any close comparisons. The closest one I could find was Lapras.
Xerneas - 3.0m (9.8 ft) / 215.0 kg (474.0 lbs)
Lapras - 2.5m (8.02 ft) / 220.0 kg (485.0 lbs)
All the Pokemon with a similar height as Xerneas are much heavier (Arceus and Zekrom for example), while all the Pokemon with a similar weight are much shorter (Dragonite and Camerupt for example).
Yveltal is pretty close to Lugia in size:
Yveltal - 5.8m (19.03 ft) / 203.0 kg (447.5 lbs)
Lugia - 5.2m (17.01 ft) / 216.0 kg (476.2 lbs)
Xerneas doesn't really have any close comparisons. The closest one I could find was Lapras.
Xerneas - 3.0m (9.8 ft) / 215.0 kg (474.0 lbs)
Lapras - 2.5m (8.02 ft) / 220.0 kg (485.0 lbs)
All the Pokemon with a similar height as Xerneas are much heavier (Arceus and Zekrom for example), while all the Pokemon with a similar weight are much shorter (Dragonite and Camerupt for example).
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
again, they usually measure from head to tail, rather than it from head to toe
again, they usually measure from head to tail, rather than it from head to toe
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RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
All aboard the wild and wacky theory train!
In every generation since the first, each game has included legendary Pokemon with typings unseen in any of the generations before it:
Gen 2: Lugia (Psychic/Flying) (The fact that it shares this typing is irrelevant because those Pokemon didn't exist in Gen 1)
Gen 3: Latios and Latias (Dragon/Psychic), Jirachi (Steel/Psychic) (see above)
Gen 4: Dialga (Steel/Dragon)
Gen 5: Reshiram (Dragon/Fire), Zekrom (Dragon/Electric), Kyurem (Dragon/Ice)
Could Xerneas and Yveltal follow a similar pattern? Well, let's see.
Yveltal is easy to speculate. Assuming he is part Flying, his main type would have to be Fighting since Fighting is the only type to not be paired with Flying. Flying as a single type is also possible but it doesn't fit according to this plan.
Xerneas is obviously based on an elk or likewise animal (not to mention they showed him in a forest), which leads me to believe he's part Grass. Let's assume that and look at all the types Grass hasn't been paired with yet:
Dragon
Electric
Fire
Ghost
At first glance, none of those look even remotely possible, but consider this: there are blue Electric-types (Thundurus, Lanturn, Luxray, Eelektross), and Eelektross sure as heck doesn't look like it would be Electric at first glance, so maybe Grass/Electric isn't that big a stretch after all...
Of course, this is just a crackpot theory I came up at six in the morning, so who knows how much merit it has? Kinda fun to guess, though.
All aboard the wild and wacky theory train!
In every generation since the first, each game has included legendary Pokemon with typings unseen in any of the generations before it:
Gen 2: Lugia (Psychic/Flying) (The fact that it shares this typing is irrelevant because those Pokemon didn't exist in Gen 1)
Gen 3: Latios and Latias (Dragon/Psychic), Jirachi (Steel/Psychic) (see above)
Gen 4: Dialga (Steel/Dragon)
Gen 5: Reshiram (Dragon/Fire), Zekrom (Dragon/Electric), Kyurem (Dragon/Ice)
Could Xerneas and Yveltal follow a similar pattern? Well, let's see.
Yveltal is easy to speculate. Assuming he is part Flying, his main type would have to be Fighting since Fighting is the only type to not be paired with Flying. Flying as a single type is also possible but it doesn't fit according to this plan.
Xerneas is obviously based on an elk or likewise animal (not to mention they showed him in a forest), which leads me to believe he's part Grass. Let's assume that and look at all the types Grass hasn't been paired with yet:
Dragon
Electric
Fire
Ghost
At first glance, none of those look even remotely possible, but consider this: there are blue Electric-types (Thundurus, Lanturn, Luxray, Eelektross), and Eelektross sure as heck doesn't look like it would be Electric at first glance, so maybe Grass/Electric isn't that big a stretch after all...
Of course, this is just a crackpot theory I came up at six in the morning, so who knows how much merit it has? Kinda fun to guess, though.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
There just happens to be interesting combos included... its not like thats the main thing they aim for or anything.
And Lati@s/Jirachi arent even mascots unlike the rest and XY.
So how would you even know Xerneas would have something unique and not any of the other ~10 legends...
Especially for the mascots, they will surely consider everything else first, like the concept...not how they have to add a new combination for the sake of it.
As said before though, you could look at something else in the mascots.
Apart from the last 2 sets, who were all secondary Dragon and all primary Dragon repsectively, the rest were all PURE TYPES, with only Flying as secondary when airborne.
So in that train of thought, weve seen the following types:
Psychic, Fire, Water, Ground, Dragon.
Adding Grass and Dark(/Flying) would still be perfectly novel in that sense.
Anyhow,
I figured out the 4 colored antlers for sure now.
Xerneas is based on THE FOUR STAGS that live in Yggdrasil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A1inn,_Dvalinn,_Duneyrr_and_Dura%C3%BEr%C3%B3r
PMJ said:
There just happens to be interesting combos included... its not like thats the main thing they aim for or anything.
And Lati@s/Jirachi arent even mascots unlike the rest and XY.
So how would you even know Xerneas would have something unique and not any of the other ~10 legends...
Especially for the mascots, they will surely consider everything else first, like the concept...not how they have to add a new combination for the sake of it.
As said before though, you could look at something else in the mascots.
Apart from the last 2 sets, who were all secondary Dragon and all primary Dragon repsectively, the rest were all PURE TYPES, with only Flying as secondary when airborne.
So in that train of thought, weve seen the following types:
Psychic, Fire, Water, Ground, Dragon.
Adding Grass and Dark(/Flying) would still be perfectly novel in that sense.
Anyhow,
I figured out the 4 colored antlers for sure now.
Xerneas is based on THE FOUR STAGS that live in Yggdrasil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A1inn,_Dvalinn,_Duneyrr_and_Dura%C3%BEr%C3%B3r
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
OK... Xerneas looks fking silly. He can't be a legendary, deers just can't be! It's like making biever Pokémon a legendary! And the fact that he looks like a fusion of Dialga and Virizion just proves the unoriginality. Yveltas on the other hand, looks pretty badass.
OK... Xerneas looks fking silly. He can't be a legendary, deers just can't be! It's like making biever Pokémon a legendary! And the fact that he looks like a fusion of Dialga and Virizion just proves the unoriginality. Yveltas on the other hand, looks pretty badass.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Yeah, I thought it was weird that Xerneas was based on the stag part of the yggdrasil story, yet there are 4 stags, not just one. Seeing that it has 4 pairs of antlers, now it makes more sense to me.
Mitja said:
Yeah, I thought it was weird that Xerneas was based on the stag part of the yggdrasil story, yet there are 4 stags, not just one. Seeing that it has 4 pairs of antlers, now it makes more sense to me.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Not exactly. Well, in my book, water and air is the most important elements in our lives. Without air, no fire (aka heat). Without water, no plants. Minerals? Er...
Light--well. I don't know about that. Can we survived without light? I don't even want to know the answer to that question. It's creepy. (Just to be clear, I'm not talking about electricity, I meant the real light aka the sun)
Mitja said:
Not exactly. Well, in my book, water and air is the most important elements in our lives. Without air, no fire (aka heat). Without water, no plants. Minerals? Er...
Light--well. I don't know about that. Can we survived without light? I don't even want to know the answer to that question. It's creepy. (Just to be clear, I'm not talking about electricity, I meant the real light aka the sun)
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Chemosynthetic bacteria can live off of the chemical energy produced by underwater magma vents. However, all life on the surface or anywhere near it underwater needs light or plants that need light in order to live.
Edit to stay on topic: From Wikipedia's entry on the 4 stags,
"Many scholars, following Sophus Bugge, believe that stanzas 33 and 34 of Grímnismál are of a later origin than those surrounding them. Finnur Jónsson surmised that there was originally only one stag which had later been turned into four, probably one on each side. This is consistent with stanza 35 of Grímnismál, which mentions only one hart:
...
It has been suggested that this original stag is identical with Eikþyrnir, mentioned earlier in Grímnismál."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eik%C3%BEyrnir
Pretty sure this supports my theory that it's the master of the musketeer trio.
Chemosynthetic bacteria can live off of the chemical energy produced by underwater magma vents. However, all life on the surface or anywhere near it underwater needs light or plants that need light in order to live.
Edit to stay on topic: From Wikipedia's entry on the 4 stags,
"Many scholars, following Sophus Bugge, believe that stanzas 33 and 34 of Grímnismál are of a later origin than those surrounding them. Finnur Jónsson surmised that there was originally only one stag which had later been turned into four, probably one on each side. This is consistent with stanza 35 of Grímnismál, which mentions only one hart:
...
It has been suggested that this original stag is identical with Eikþyrnir, mentioned earlier in Grímnismál."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eik%C3%BEyrnir
Pretty sure this supports my theory that it's the master of the musketeer trio.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
As much as I like the novelty of guessing types based on weight, Pokemon is atrocious at estimating how weights should transfer into real life. Steelix has the density of polystyrine and Wailord is much lighter than the water it's supposed to be able to swim in.
As much as I like the novelty of guessing types based on weight, Pokemon is atrocious at estimating how weights should transfer into real life. Steelix has the density of polystyrine and Wailord is much lighter than the water it's supposed to be able to swim in.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Think about the typing if they were, in fact, dark/flying and grass/somethingelse. It would help the main legendary balance because there are no main legendary dark types nor grass. The strongest grass type legendary is shaymin sky forme and its not that strong, same with darkrai (I know very well of arceus, that's not what I mean) We need more dark types and grass and perhaps fighting is a possibility on Xerneas because we lack that as well.
Think about the typing if they were, in fact, dark/flying and grass/somethingelse. It would help the main legendary balance because there are no main legendary dark types nor grass. The strongest grass type legendary is shaymin sky forme and its not that strong, same with darkrai (I know very well of arceus, that's not what I mean) We need more dark types and grass and perhaps fighting is a possibility on Xerneas because we lack that as well.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
eh... I said 'sort of' because everybody thought of Grass first and you know, just to be safe about what I was saying...
I honestly doubt that but if it turned out to be true, then we could say Xerneas will be part Fighting...
Aquapulse said:
eh... I said 'sort of' because everybody thought of Grass first and you know, just to be safe about what I was saying...
I honestly doubt that but if it turned out to be true, then we could say Xerneas will be part Fighting...
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Shaymin-S is arguably the STRONGEST Grass-type Pokemon that we have. Have you seen Darkrai's Sp.Attack & Speed? He's actually probably the strongest Dark-type also unless you count Dark-type Arceus. Both of these Pokemon are incredibly strong my friend. There's a reason they are both Uber.
Are you serious? LOLdark arceus said:
Shaymin-S is arguably the STRONGEST Grass-type Pokemon that we have. Have you seen Darkrai's Sp.Attack & Speed? He's actually probably the strongest Dark-type also unless you count Dark-type Arceus. Both of these Pokemon are incredibly strong my friend. There's a reason they are both Uber.
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
Well, I didn't mean it like THAT, I love darkrai I have one. Im just saying it would be awesome to have a dark and/or grass type as strong as, say, dialga palkia reshiram or zekrom
safariblade said:
Well, I didn't mean it like THAT, I love darkrai I have one. Im just saying it would be awesome to have a dark and/or grass type as strong as, say, dialga palkia reshiram or zekrom
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
You didn't get it...
Like he said, what he meant was we still don't have a Grass or Dark-type Uber with 680 BST (or 670 at least) like the usual version mascots...
safariblade said:
You didn't get it...
Like he said, what he meant was we still don't have a Grass or Dark-type Uber with 680 BST (or 670 at least) like the usual version mascots...
RE: The Two Legendary Pokemon
No, he didn't say anything about base stats. He just said he wanted them to be "as strong as", which don't have to mean base stats (ex, Slaking)
Shaymin-S & Darkrai are just as good as Dialga, Reshiram, etc.
I think what he MEANT to say is that he wants a Grass or Dark-type Legendary to be a mascot & be as popular as Dialga, Reshriram, etc.
No, he didn't say anything about base stats. He just said he wanted them to be "as strong as", which don't have to mean base stats (ex, Slaking)
Shaymin-S & Darkrai are just as good as Dialga, Reshiram, etc.
I think what he MEANT to say is that he wants a Grass or Dark-type Legendary to be a mascot & be as popular as Dialga, Reshriram, etc.
