Finished Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - TOWN WINS

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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Um. When night comes we do.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Still not up to page 6, yet, but felt the need to respond.
Meaty said:
I understand if you have suspicions against me, but comments like these are very suspicious if you ask me.

Besides, I just noticed that on the night update it said that the note was written in different handwriting than the note from the vigilantes about arriving. That clearly implies that it's a non-wolf source, such as a seer or someone with a role of the sort.
I hadn't noticed that it was different handwriting, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a non-wolf writer, just a different person. It could be a different wolf, but this does seem less likely now.
I know people like to play safe early on so that we have little to go off of, but if you didn't know this already, these past two games that I've been in have both been lost to wolves, and I think a lot of the blame can be put on the town being unwilling to take action. A day with no lynch is a complete waste of a day, and that's that. I strongly urge all of you to at least lynch someone. Avoiding lynches is something only wolves should try to do...
I mostly agree with you about avoiding No Lynches. I'd rather take a chance, but on Night 1, there's never enough to go on. So far we have TDL for just messing with us, Teal and myself for some vague clue that means nothing, and SB for playing poorly the past two days. Honestly, I'd rather get rid of SB or vote No Lynch, but whatever.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

By the way, I don't think we should place too much stock on lynching Teal straight away if we lynch Cinesra and he winds up being town. It's possible they're both town and the message-sending role is a scum role sent to trip us up.

That's why I'd rather see safariblade lynched today. He didn't care at all last game and I'm not prepared to let him be dead weight for our team in this one. I'd rather lose a bad player as fast as we can, even if he does wind up being town with a good role (which, by the way, we can place no stock in because saying "don't lynch me I have a good role" is what anyone would say who is getting pointed at for a lynch [I'm different because I have already been confirmed town, and my role is pretty bad unless you're stupid enough to kill me]).
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Okay, to be fair, safariblade mentioned he didn't protect anyone for fear of protecting a wolf, and that's not the same as not caring, but the way I see it, if you have an ability that can help your side not lose, you owe it to your teammates to at least try.

Trying--even if you fail at hitting your mark--is infinitely better than not trying at all.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Am I the only one who's noticed how Bippa and Puff have been acting. Bippa was like "Hey, TDL, imma be aggressive, be be aggressive and lynch you." The Puff was all like "Haha, yeah, I'll vote for TDL for no good reason besides bandwagoning." Then they both changed their votes to No Lynch because that was the popular opinion. Next, they saw Meaty vote for me and decided to hop on that bandwagon. It's real early for 1 voting when we have like 9 days left and for 2 changing your votes this much.
 
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PMJ said:
Okay, to be fair, safariblade mentioned he didn't protect anyone for fear of protecting a wolf, and that's not the same as not caring, but the way I see it, if you have an ability that can help your side not lose, you owe it to your teammates to at least try.

Trying--even if you fail at hitting your mark--is infinitely better than not trying at all.

Thanks I guess haha. Can we just agree that I "screwed the town" not because I didn't care but because I'm an inexperienced player? I see now that I messed up but at the time I thought I was just playing it safe, and now I'm getting ridiculous amounts of ridicule - with the claims that I purposely and single-handedly allowed the wolves to win, which is not true.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I never said you purposely allowed them to win, but you didn't make it any more difficult, either.
 
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Cinesra said:
Am I the only one who's noticed how Bippa and Puff have been acting. Bippa was like "Hey, TDL, imma be aggressive, be be aggressive and lynch you." The Puff was all like "Haha, yeah, I'll vote for TDL for no good reason besides bandwagoning." Then they both changed their votes to No Lynch because that was the popular opinion. Next, they saw Meaty vote for me and decided to hop on that bandwagon. It's real early for 1 voting when we have like 9 days left and for 2 changing your votes this much.
I looked back to make sure, and both of them are definitely bandwagoning at the moment.
HypnoticLuxray said:
No before we all go a band-a-wagoning on this clue, let's actually examine it more. What makes us so sure that what this clue is referring to is alignments? It could mean roles. It might not even be referring to players. What exactly is arsenic? It's a poison, in most uses. As I think PMJ mentioned before, Arsenic's true color is grey. It might mean something along the lines of Teal has been poisoned.
If Teal was poisoned, then you have to wonder if Cinesra was the poisoner or if someone else used the "Arsenic". PMJ mentioned that the Texas Ranger looked through "records" of the town, which would be bizarre if this savior really got such a kickstart and was the one that posted the note.

Honestly, I'd rather lynch Safari now and wait to see if we get another note the next day.
 
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Cinesra said:
Am I the only one who's noticed how Bippa and Puff have been acting. Bippa was like "Hey, TDL, imma be aggressive, be be aggressive and lynch you." The Puff was all like "Haha, yeah, I'll vote for TDL for no good reason besides bandwagoning." Then they both changed their votes to No Lynch because that was the popular opinion. Next, they saw Meaty vote for me and decided to hop on that bandwagon. It's real early for 1 voting when we have like 9 days left and for 2 changing your votes this much.

Actually I did notice Bippa switching a lot. I would rather vote for one of them than you.

Also, I think there would be a greater chance Cinesra is an indie than a wolf. If the Texas Ranger looked through records to find something, he would probably find a profile on a dangerous outlaw, but one that would already be around, not an unknown wolf.

Also, I like it how a bunch of people voted no Lynch, and then they all subtracted their votes...
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Okay... Wow, there's a lot of things going on. If there was no evidence whatsoever, I would vote no lynch, but I think we should take our opportunity now and solve this "Arsenic is grey, not Teal" clue. I think we might need to take it as literal. Arsenic (Cinesra) is grey. Grey can be taken as an independent color. This clue could be saying that Cinesra is a indie and Teal is not. Also, I noticed that the Vigilantes note said "We have arrived. Resist or die. - The Vigilantes". Wouldn't it say "We have arrived. Surrender or die. - The Vigilantes"? That's the traditional mode of enemy notes. I don't think it could be a clue, but it is interesting.
 
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Glace said:
Also, I like it how a bunch of people voted no Lynch, and then they all subtracted their votes...

I'll take some credit for that. If people are going to vote No Lynch, I can't stop them, but blowing our chances of getting a Vigilante when we have so much time to talk seems lolworthy.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Before I start I'd like to point out Gistica. He's made one post today, with one sentence that is horribly detail-less, terribly inaccurate, and totally wrong. Then he votes for the option that has the most votes on it already, No Lynch. If that's not a blind bandwagoner, then what is?

So anyway, we're getting more and more options as the day goes on-making me even more suspicious of anyone who has voted this quickly. It seems like the option to lynch safariblade is losing steam because there is more evidence of maybe actually hitting a wolf/indie if we lynch somebody else, since we still have no evidence that sb isn't a townie (we have no evidence that he is either, but still its better to try and lynch a wolf than to lynch a bad townie usually). Lynching TDL is also not looking to be a good option because of the risks involved. So, we have a few choices still.

We can lynch Cinesra due to the note stating that Arsenic is gray, which is often considered to be the indie color (anybody know where exactly indies are referred to as gray and wolves as red? I can't figure out where that is). We can lynch Puff or Bippa for seeming to jump onto the bandwagon very quickly and easily (and I suppose Gistica, then maybe Bisharp37 and 9Tailz can fall under that too now...)

So right now we've got a lot of bandwagoners. I'm thinking that some of them are probably just newer players that are just playing like that because they don't know, or at least don't think they know enough, or whatever the reason is otherwise-its very doubtful that all of the bandwagoners are wolves, there will be townie bandwagoners in every game. However, we can't trust the note with absolute certainty, and even if we can, its meaning isn't totally known-it might not be saying Cinesra is a indie/townie.

So those look like our options, aside from No Lynch, which I'm not a fan of either since it just gives the vigilantes a day up on us. Did I miss any other options?
 
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Argetlam said:
Also, I noticed that the Vigilantes note said "We have arrived. Resist or die. - The Vigilantes". Wouldn't it say "We have arrived. Surrender or die. - The Vigilantes"? That's the traditional mode of enemy notes. I don't think it could be a clue, but it is interesting.

Maybe a wolf writes something into the post?
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

When I first read the update, I did notice that, but I didn't give it much thought and it slipped my mind. Now that I think about it, that is very interesting. Like you send, the traditional saying is surrender or die, as opposed to resist or die. It usually implies: give up or we'll kill you, but now it's saying: Fight back or we'll kill you. Interesting.

Second of all, we should could consider the spelling of grey. It's not the traditional American spelling. But then again, the only two people I've seen use the "gray" spelling is Dark Void and safari. So, I know who didn't send it...
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

There are multiple ways to spell grey? (I'm not the best speller)
I thought one was the color and the other was something else... haha.

For the fight back or die thing, could just be a threat like "we are killing you either way, but you'll have a greater chance if you fight". So it sounds like some cocky person wrote that saying that they'd win either way, but that we could try but they'd still win.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

The first recorded use of grey as a color name in the English language was in AD 700.[2] Grey is the British, Canadian, Australian, Irish, New Zealand and South African spelling, although gray remained in common usage in the UK until the second half of the 20th century.[3] Gray is the preferred American spelling, although grey is an accepted variant.[4][5] Gray became the preferred spelling in American English around 1825.[6]
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

How experienced is puff?

I spell "grey" like gray, unless I'm actually trying not to.
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You know, it's possible the note actually meant arsenic (not cinesra) is gray... Teal is not.

For those who still don't understand it, as PMJ (iirc) said, Sa is actually gray. Therefore this could just be a clue directed on one person (Which seems more likely to be a role because it's less unbalanced).

DNA Could have said "mercury is gray, teal is not." I think all this is saying to us is that Teal is either a wolf or a townie... I would suggest a seer check him or Cinesra tonight to confirm at least one identity.
 
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Nengeni said:
DNA Could have said "mercury is gray, teal is not." I think all this is saying to us is that Teal is either a wolf or a townie... I would suggest a seer check him or Cinesra tonight to confirm at least one identity.
Only issue is we can't exactly have said seer let us know this early in the game, anyhow. So either we act on this now, or leave it until we get verification.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Teal is from Finland, so if grey is the preferred spelling in European countries than since Teal is not "grey" he is different making him a wolf? Lol best I could come up with.
 
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Let's face it:. If Teal was the writer, he either has guts for the largest bluff possible, or is derping. I highly doubt either of them.
 
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