Finished Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - TOWN WINS
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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
All right. I think we need to take a risk. Here are my points:
1. We have a clue (arsenic is gray not teal). Therefore, we should not go for no lynch! We should take this opportunity to strike first.
2. Arsenic is Cinesra backwards. I interpret this clue as Cinesra is gray (indie) and Teal isn't, or that Cinesra is gray (indie) and Cinesra and Teal are not the same color (allegience).
3. All evidence points to Cinesra being an indie.
What do you guys think? I think we should lynch Cinesra.
Also, I noticed someone mentioned that it was curious that I would bring up the wording of the Vigilantes' threat. I brought it up because I thought it was interesting and because I read a lot of books that have notes that say "surrender or die" but not "resist or die". It doesn't make much sense, because if people resist a strong force, they are usually more likely to die than if they surrender. I really don't think it is too much to worry about.
much to be worried about, though.
All right. I think we need to take a risk. Here are my points:
1. We have a clue (arsenic is gray not teal). Therefore, we should not go for no lynch! We should take this opportunity to strike first.
2. Arsenic is Cinesra backwards. I interpret this clue as Cinesra is gray (indie) and Teal isn't, or that Cinesra is gray (indie) and Cinesra and Teal are not the same color (allegience).
3. All evidence points to Cinesra being an indie.
What do you guys think? I think we should lynch Cinesra.
Also, I noticed someone mentioned that it was curious that I would bring up the wording of the Vigilantes' threat. I brought it up because I thought it was interesting and because I read a lot of books that have notes that say "surrender or die" but not "resist or die". It doesn't make much sense, because if people resist a strong force, they are usually more likely to die than if they surrender. I really don't think it is too much to worry about.
much to be worried about, though.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
This has all been gone over today. Cinesra's defense is that we have no way to know that the note is from anyone good, although some people say that since the handwriting between the vigilante note and clue note is markedly different, it could be the Texas Ranger noted in the intro as he already has some info on the town, or so he says. I'm personally undecided on the manner, just stating the points that have been brought up.
The vigilante note is most likely pure flavor. There is no surrender option for the town in a werewolf game-they win or die trying. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense to include surrender or die if there is no way to actually surrender.
Its kind of strange however that you post asking for a lynch without having read any of the day, or at least so it seems...
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This has all been gone over today. Cinesra's defense is that we have no way to know that the note is from anyone good, although some people say that since the handwriting between the vigilante note and clue note is markedly different, it could be the Texas Ranger noted in the intro as he already has some info on the town, or so he says. I'm personally undecided on the manner, just stating the points that have been brought up.
The vigilante note is most likely pure flavor. There is no surrender option for the town in a werewolf game-they win or die trying. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense to include surrender or die if there is no way to actually surrender.
Its kind of strange however that you post asking for a lynch without having read any of the day, or at least so it seems...
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
I have read most of this day, but it is difficult to remember specific posts when there are like five pages to read and you have to read very quickly. That's a good point, we don't know it's from anyone good, but we don't know that it is from anyone bad either. I find that a flimsy defense, and I suppose it is a just as flimsy offense.
I have read most of this day, but it is difficult to remember specific posts when there are like five pages to read and you have to read very quickly. That's a good point, we don't know it's from anyone good, but we don't know that it is from anyone bad either. I find that a flimsy defense, and I suppose it is a just as flimsy offense.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
1. Either one of them could be an indie, bypassing all the wolf stuff.
2. PMJ said he would set up the forum if he was a wolf. I don't think this statement was ever confirmed, only that CMP did in fact set up the forum. It could be a lie.(Probably not, though)
3. Arceus never claimed anything to that sort.
4. KA made a huge complaint about how he didn't like that the wolves having their own forum, because super-mods could see the usergroups. Could be some huge reverse-psychology thing. (Again unlikely)
Of course, not all of these are likely, but that doesn't make you a confirmed townie.
There's a difference between noobiness and stupidity.Nengeni said:
I, myself, don't consider either of them confirmed townies. I consider both of them players who have a really good arguments as why they aren't wolves. In Werewolf, there are no 'confirmed' townies. Anyone of them could be lying or bluffing, one way or another.safariblade said:
1. Either one of them could be an indie, bypassing all the wolf stuff.
2. PMJ said he would set up the forum if he was a wolf. I don't think this statement was ever confirmed, only that CMP did in fact set up the forum. It could be a lie.(Probably not, though)
3. Arceus never claimed anything to that sort.
4. KA made a huge complaint about how he didn't like that the wolves having their own forum, because super-mods could see the usergroups. Could be some huge reverse-psychology thing. (Again unlikely)
Of course, not all of these are likely, but that doesn't make you a confirmed townie.
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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
All right guys, we're getting off track.
Let me clear something up:
Yes there are, just not typically the way we play. This game is different, because you have two super mods playing and neither one is running the show. I told DNA how to handle setting up the wolf forum in the event I wasn't a wolf, but he won't confirm that because then he'd be hard confirming me as town. It's my job to convince you I'm telling the truth in whatever way I'm allowed. I'll continue to do just that.
Fair enough. I don't have a counter-argument to this. I can't speak for KA's alignment, but I'm definitely town. If you can't believe that, then at the very least believe me when I say it would be in the town's best interest to simply let the Vigilantes have their way with me during the night (or anyone with a night kill, for that matter).
Think about it. Why would I need to bother CMP with something as trivial as editing a few users? DNA went to CMP for the explicit purpose of setting up the wolf forum because I wasn't in it. If I had been a wolf, he wouldn't need to do that.
What? Elaborate on this, please.
More like sour grapes because he took the high road and got himself thrown out of the game on an incorrect suspicion. The only way we can know definitively who's in the usergroup is by manually checking the group itself in the Admin CP. Otherwise, it's a hunch. Not even WPM can see the wolf forum.
All right guys, we're getting off track.
Let me clear something up:
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Yes there are, just not typically the way we play. This game is different, because you have two super mods playing and neither one is running the show. I told DNA how to handle setting up the wolf forum in the event I wasn't a wolf, but he won't confirm that because then he'd be hard confirming me as town. It's my job to convince you I'm telling the truth in whatever way I'm allowed. I'll continue to do just that.
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Fair enough. I don't have a counter-argument to this. I can't speak for KA's alignment, but I'm definitely town. If you can't believe that, then at the very least believe me when I say it would be in the town's best interest to simply let the Vigilantes have their way with me during the night (or anyone with a night kill, for that matter).
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Think about it. Why would I need to bother CMP with something as trivial as editing a few users? DNA went to CMP for the explicit purpose of setting up the wolf forum because I wasn't in it. If I had been a wolf, he wouldn't need to do that.
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What? Elaborate on this, please.
HypnoticLuxray said:
More like sour grapes because he took the high road and got himself thrown out of the game on an incorrect suspicion. The only way we can know definitively who's in the usergroup is by manually checking the group itself in the Admin CP. Otherwise, it's a hunch. Not even WPM can see the wolf forum.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
and the plots of insurrection therein
This is basically a trust issue here. I have it on good faith that no one in the game involved will go do that, but all I have is their word. I've no way to prove if they ever did it or not.Nengeni said:
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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
We don't have to. Usergroups are listed in alphabetical order; "Werewolf" is literally at the bottom of the list, followed by "Unlimited PM's" and "Trade Council", and only the latter of which gets any regular use, and omahanime is more than capable of altering that list as long as KA is in the game.
We don't have to. Usergroups are listed in alphabetical order; "Werewolf" is literally at the bottom of the list, followed by "Unlimited PM's" and "Trade Council", and only the latter of which gets any regular use, and omahanime is more than capable of altering that list as long as KA is in the game.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
PMJ, I know you aren't a wolf, but I don't think you're town either. I will wait and see, though.
PMJ, I know you aren't a wolf, but I don't think you're town either. I will wait and see, though.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
PMJ, I don't highly doubt that you're town. The main point of that post that any argument, no matter how strong, can have it's flaws/loopholes/etc, making no one a "confirmed" townie. Of course, the margin is debatable, but no one can be proven 100 % innocent.
PMJ, I don't highly doubt that you're town. The main point of that post that any argument, no matter how strong, can have it's flaws/loopholes/etc, making no one a "confirmed" townie. Of course, the margin is debatable, but no one can be proven 100 % innocent.
Gladly. You told DNA that if you got the wolf card, then you would set up the wolf forum. However, I never saw King Arceus claim that if he got the wolf card, he would set up the wolf forum. So yeah...PMJ said:
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
I only consider confirmed townies are when a role is revealed to the Town like last game with ESP. There might be "strong evidence" but confirm is 100% guarantee IMO.
dmaster out.
I only consider confirmed townies are when a role is revealed to the Town like last game with ESP. There might be "strong evidence" but confirm is 100% guarantee IMO.
dmaster out.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
In my Mybb, regardless of how a forum is set up the admin/ super admin can view every forum, even if the administrator usergroup if not given access to the forum.
Also, Vote: No Lynch
Not enough reason to vote for anyone else.
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In my Mybb, regardless of how a forum is set up the admin/ super admin can view every forum, even if the administrator usergroup if not given access to the forum.
Also, Vote: No Lynch
Not enough reason to vote for anyone else.
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