RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Exactly now let's start with Cinesra. Gogogogogo
Exactly now let's start with Cinesra. Gogogogogo
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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Cinesra first.
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Cinesra first.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Unvote: No Lynch
Vote: Teal
Let me explain.
"Arsenic is Grey; Teal is not."
Teal's color is a blue-ish green.
If the text on the sign is true, then Teal is not Green
According to my research, Green normally means townsfolk.
If Teal is not green, then he's either RED (meaning Syndicate) or Gray (meaning Indie)
Arsenic might relate to Cinesra, but I think the real meaning of the sign has more to do with Teal alignment, rather than the former.
Can someone please look at my logic, and tell me if there's something I might've missed?
Unvote: No Lynch
Vote: Teal
Let me explain.
"Arsenic is Grey; Teal is not."
Teal's color is a blue-ish green.
If the text on the sign is true, then Teal is not Green
According to my research, Green normally means townsfolk.
If Teal is not green, then he's either RED (meaning Syndicate) or Gray (meaning Indie)
Arsenic might relate to Cinesra, but I think the real meaning of the sign has more to do with Teal alignment, rather than the former.
Can someone please look at my logic, and tell me if there's something I might've missed?
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
I don't understand how that makes Teal not green.
I don't understand how that makes Teal not green.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Arsenic in real life is Gray. Teal in real life is Green. If the sign holds true, then Teal cannot be green. Of course, this all comes down to if we can trust the text on the sign is genuine.
Arsenic in real life is Gray. Teal in real life is Green. If the sign holds true, then Teal cannot be green. Of course, this all comes down to if we can trust the text on the sign is genuine.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
I kinda see where you're going with that oyeah. But I think that's more of a reason to vote for Cinesra, because he is grey (indie).
Most of us have read the note as "Arsenic is Grey; Teal is not [grey]". You're reading the note as "Arsenic is Grey; Teal is not [green]", which is rather revolutionary in my opinion. It certainly makes Teal sound more threatening when you read it that way.
So if oyeah is correct, then Cinesra is an indie, and Teal is either an indie or a wolf. Voting for Teal seems like a safer choice, because if Teal shows up as town upon death, then the note is bogus. But I guess it's also true if we vote Cinesra and he doesn't show up as an indie.
Voting for one of them seems like a safe option, and probably the best option given what we have to work with (being a note).
I kinda see where you're going with that oyeah. But I think that's more of a reason to vote for Cinesra, because he is grey (indie).
Most of us have read the note as "Arsenic is Grey; Teal is not [grey]". You're reading the note as "Arsenic is Grey; Teal is not [green]", which is rather revolutionary in my opinion. It certainly makes Teal sound more threatening when you read it that way.
So if oyeah is correct, then Cinesra is an indie, and Teal is either an indie or a wolf. Voting for Teal seems like a safer choice, because if Teal shows up as town upon death, then the note is bogus. But I guess it's also true if we vote Cinesra and he doesn't show up as an indie.
Voting for one of them seems like a safe option, and probably the best option given what we have to work with (being a note).
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
I don't see how both can live at this point. If one of them ends up being Town, the other is most likely an Indie/Wolf and that's too good of reason to vote for them after we see the other's role (that is assuming the note is true as well). Even if one of them is an Indie, the other could still be a wolf, so lynching both of them is almost necessary unless we have outside help with the Seer.
dmaster out.
I don't see how both can live at this point. If one of them ends up being Town, the other is most likely an Indie/Wolf and that's too good of reason to vote for them after we see the other's role (that is assuming the note is true as well). Even if one of them is an Indie, the other could still be a wolf, so lynching both of them is almost necessary unless we have outside help with the Seer.
dmaster out.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Exactly. And since that is the only hint we have, we should see if we can confirm it. That way we can potentially trust future notes. Maybe the seer is the one who even posted that.
Exactly. And since that is the only hint we have, we should see if we can confirm it. That way we can potentially trust future notes. Maybe the seer is the one who even posted that.
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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Maybe the seer is the Texas Ranger? In this theme, what better way to explain it than someone who has seen records on the town and can presumably access one of those records once per night?.
As far as the Day 1 lynch is concerned, I've been withholding my vote because I'd rather have something solid to go on. As this is Day 1, "something solid" just isn't going to happen.
Therefore, we fall to analyzing the note left alongside the Vigilantes' note: "Arsenic is grey not teal." The most common consensus is that the note refers to Cinesra's/Teal's alignment, but I personally find it highly unlikely that there is a singular role that can scan two players' alignments and then post about it, even if it is limited.
The question, then, is this: If the note indeed came from a pro-Town source, and we are to believe the author's intent was to get us to lynch Cinesra, why mention the word "teal" at all, knowing we have a player whose name is Teal? Wouldn't the author know that doing that would just sow the seeds of confusion among his team? If the author wanted to make it clear that Cinesra was not to be trusted, he could have used any other color that isn't a shade of blue and Cinesra probably would have been lynched already.
As it stands, now Teal has been linked with this note, which could very well lead to his doom.
Remember, we have another week specifically to cater to the nats players, so we may be hearing from them in the next few days.
Maybe the seer is the Texas Ranger? In this theme, what better way to explain it than someone who has seen records on the town and can presumably access one of those records once per night?.
As far as the Day 1 lynch is concerned, I've been withholding my vote because I'd rather have something solid to go on. As this is Day 1, "something solid" just isn't going to happen.
Therefore, we fall to analyzing the note left alongside the Vigilantes' note: "Arsenic is grey not teal." The most common consensus is that the note refers to Cinesra's/Teal's alignment, but I personally find it highly unlikely that there is a singular role that can scan two players' alignments and then post about it, even if it is limited.
The question, then, is this: If the note indeed came from a pro-Town source, and we are to believe the author's intent was to get us to lynch Cinesra, why mention the word "teal" at all, knowing we have a player whose name is Teal? Wouldn't the author know that doing that would just sow the seeds of confusion among his team? If the author wanted to make it clear that Cinesra was not to be trusted, he could have used any other color that isn't a shade of blue and Cinesra probably would have been lynched already.
As it stands, now Teal has been linked with this note, which could very well lead to his doom.
Remember, we have another week specifically to cater to the nats players, so we may be hearing from them in the next few days.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Eh, might as well just come out with it already. I doubt this will be of any help, but Cinesra used a night role on night 0. This means he is probably the one who sent the note.
Eh, might as well just come out with it already. I doubt this will be of any help, but Cinesra used a night role on night 0. This means he is probably the one who sent the note.
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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Not necessarily. We have thirty-two players in the game and there is obviously more than one player who has a night action eligible for use on Night 0.
It also doesn't prove his alignment at all because it's entirely possible for scum players to have night actions (see: DNA last game).
Not necessarily. We have thirty-two players in the game and there is obviously more than one player who has a night action eligible for use on Night 0.
It also doesn't prove his alignment at all because it's entirely possible for scum players to have night actions (see: DNA last game).
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I never said it proves anything about his alignment. I withheld the info because it could mean anything. Maybe Cinesra posted the note to tell the town of Teal? Maybe Teal posted the note to tell the town Cinesra has a dangerous role? This is why my clue adds nothing; we're still playing a guessing game.
If anything this adds more risk. Cinesra might be a seer and the wolves posted the note to leave the lynch to us. If anything my clue just leads to more what if scenerios.
I never said it proves anything about his alignment. I withheld the info because it could mean anything. Maybe Cinesra posted the note to tell the town of Teal? Maybe Teal posted the note to tell the town Cinesra has a dangerous role? This is why my clue adds nothing; we're still playing a guessing game.
If anything this adds more risk. Cinesra might be a seer and the wolves posted the note to leave the lynch to us. If anything my clue just leads to more what if scenerios.
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RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Saying that he is "probably the one who sent the note" implies he's town because we are assuming that the note comes from a pro-Town source - presumably, the Texas Ranger.
If what you say is true, it does tell us a few relevant details, but I'm going to keep them to myself for now. I'd like to see what Cinesra has to say on his behalf, and give those who have not spoken up much to get a word in.
Saying that he is "probably the one who sent the note" implies he's town because we are assuming that the note comes from a pro-Town source - presumably, the Texas Ranger.
If what you say is true, it does tell us a few relevant details, but I'm going to keep them to myself for now. I'd like to see what Cinesra has to say on his behalf, and give those who have not spoken up much to get a word in.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Yes, I would also like to see what Cinesra has to say. He hasn't really given much defense other then the fact that we don't know that the note is from a good person. My rebuttal to that is - Yes, well, the note is the only clue we have, and it appears to point to Cinesra being an indie. I believe that it is more important to act on any clue we have, because we do not have anything else to go on on Day 1.
Yes, I would also like to see what Cinesra has to say. He hasn't really given much defense other then the fact that we don't know that the note is from a good person. My rebuttal to that is - Yes, well, the note is the only clue we have, and it appears to point to Cinesra being an indie. I believe that it is more important to act on any clue we have, because we do not have anything else to go on on Day 1.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
Hey guys, sorry for not posting, I just got back from nats.
I really think that we are reading way too far into this note thing. How in the world could someone know the the alignments of two people night 0, and then have the ability to anonymously tell the town? If someone did have the ability to do those things, do you think it would be in the hands of a townie?
Hey guys, sorry for not posting, I just got back from nats.
I really think that we are reading way too far into this note thing. How in the world could someone know the the alignments of two people night 0, and then have the ability to anonymously tell the town? If someone did have the ability to do those things, do you think it would be in the hands of a townie?
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
I still think DNA posted the note to make things interesting. Otherwise it's just a REALLY powerful role.
I still think DNA posted the note to make things interesting. Otherwise it's just a REALLY powerful role.
RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT
I believe the information is true. I just think that the game aster is the one who dropped the hint.
I believe the information is true. I just think that the game aster is the one who dropped the hint.
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