Finished Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Town Wins

[Ice Espeon]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

I am in favour of a lynch, as when we have a virtually confirmed target it makes sense to act before the wolves have the opportunity to influence our vote. Despite this, I would like to hear what grantm1999 has to say first.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

I am in favour of a lynch, as when we have a virtually confirmed target it makes sense to act before the wolves have the opportunity to influence our vote. Despite this, I would like to hear what grantm1999 has to say first.

What? This is silly. If anything we want the scum to try and influence our decision so we can see who they are. We all know that grant will be lynched at the end of the day, and if he isn't he WILL be lynched tomorrow unless he claims seer with a believable Role PM or something. Quicklynching does us no good whasoever.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Posting to acknowledge my existence.
I will read over the previous phases and get caught up before posting further.

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

@Wailord_2 Lenny made no mention if his role/ability allows him to pick targets, but you've stated a possibility, I think. It's a very low chance, though, and it can be disproved if Lenny doesn't have a targeting ability or if he targeted someone else last night.

@Drohn That's true... but that plan won't work if the wolf kill set-up is that the alpha wolf just chooses one of his fellow wolves and that wolf will do the kill, so even if grant is roleblocked, the alpha will just choose another wolf who will perform the kill. I recall reading up some WW game set-ups like that. Still doesn't make grant any less likely to be a wolf though if rev3rsor is correct.

Let me put that theory to rest. I did not target anyone with an ability. I agree it seems very coincidental that this death happens right as I'm saved, but that's all it is, coincidence. I didn't even pick up on that possibility the first time I read through the night update.

I think attempting to role-block the scum every night could be disastrous. If they don't work as a unified body all the time or have some other way around it, it will only result in more townies killed. The risk outweighs the benefits by far. It's best to lynch them as we see them.

With that said, it's better to get at least some discussion going through the day without rushing. I will keep my vote on grantm1999 because that isn't changing for the rest of the day, and seeing that we need a 14 vote majority to end the day early, I don't see that happening so quickly. We have plenty of time for discussion.

With grantm1999 on the chopping block, it is also entirely possible that TWO people targeted me, one being grantm1999 who isn't scum and another person who is scum, and I was saved by another role. This scenario seems highly unlikely, and if grantm1999 somehow flips town, we will have to really reevaluate what happened last night.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

I have not read the thread at all but just barely skimmed to know that I am heavily under suspicion. I am immediately copy/pasting my role here so that you guys can check time stamps or whatever and confirm myself town because I have not been on long enough to make a fake.

Jean Sylvain Bailly [grantm1999]
Initially President of the 3rd Estate you administered the original Tennis Court Oaths. Now you’ve taken up a different position, mayor of Paris – but it doesn’t seem that you have much control of the town.

Ability: The View from the Mayor’s Mansion.
Each night you may PM the name of one player. You will learn who they came into contact with that night. (Who they targeted and who targeted them.)

Ability: Get Out the Vote!
Each night you may PM me the name of a player. If that player votes for you to be lynched your first ability will be doubled the next night. This ability may only be activated twice.

Win Condition: Town Wins

I will now read the thread, and I will give results if I need to, though I think that might be detrimental.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Also thank you invaders for killing the confo-town scum!

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Also thank you invaders for killing the confo-town scum!

Oh yeah, we forgot to properly thank them!

Grant, what are your results so far and who do you want to vote for you today (your second action)? We get double use of your ability if you just out your target, because not voting for you would be anti-town and would give us another lead should you somehow be proved innocent.

The way that you made your post was very townlike, but you could have also made that fake overnit or on Day 1. Like you probably did if you were scum, so that whole timestamps argument is useless.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

I have not read the thread at all but just barely skimmed to know that I am heavily under suspicion. I am immediately copy/pasting my role here so that you guys can check time stamps or whatever and confirm myself town because I have not been on long enough to make a fake.

Jean Sylvain Bailly [grantm1999]
Initially President of the 3rd Estate you administered the original Tennis Court Oaths. Now you’ve taken up a different position, mayor of Paris – but it doesn’t seem that you have much control of the town.

Ability: The View from the Mayor’s Mansion.
Each night you may PM the name of one player. You will learn who they came into contact with that night. (Who they targeted and who targeted them.)

Ability: Get Out the Vote!
Each night you may PM me the name of a player. If that player votes for you to be lynched your first ability will be doubled the next night. This ability may only be activated twice.

Win Condition: Town Wins

I will now read the thread, and I will give results if I need to, though I think that might be detrimental.

Your role is a mayor; close enough to government/royal stuff imo. You had since the beginning of the game to create a false claim, ready to be c/p at your convenience. That's no excuse. Especially after a whole week of free time (2 night phases).

I don't believe your false claim at all, but just for the sake of "why not ask" what were the results of your ability.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Ah, so Reverser is the one who prevented me from watching Celever, ok. Unfortunately for me, there was no scum kill, so that makes me look scummy. I didn't want to reveal this before now, but since I've already claimed, I'll let you know that I watched camoclone inspect Luispipe on night zero, so that's why I was so adamant about following Camo on the Luis lynch and keeping my vote on Luis. I figured that if he inspected Luis, and then tunneled him so hard, then Luis must be some anti-town role. I backed off when camo did though, because he knew that he wasn't getting Luis lynched without claiming seer/cop (which would be stupid).

Also I was gone all day in case anyone was wondering otherwise I would've posted sooner.

Drohn and Lenny are basically confo-town though, so that's good. It seems we're in a pretty good position so even if you guys mistakingly lynch me then you'll have so much info so we'll probably win anyway

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Only we found out Camo was a seer when he died and you had no idea he "inspected him". He could have tried to kill him for all we know. Obvious lie.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Got ninja'd by you two

Also thank you invaders for killing the confo-town scum!

Oh yeah, we forgot to properly thank them! ikr

Grant, what are your results so far and who do you want to vote for you today (your second action)? We get double use of your ability if you just out your target, because not voting for you would be anti-town and would give us another lead should you somehow be proved innocent.

The way that you made your post was very townlike, but you could have also made that fake overnit or on Day 1. Like you probably did if you were scum, so that whole timestamps argument is useless.

I have not read the thread at all but just barely skimmed to know that I am heavily under suspicion. I am immediately copy/pasting my role here so that you guys can check time stamps or whatever and confirm myself town because I have not been on long enough to make a fake.

Jean Sylvain Bailly [grantm1999]
Initially President of the 3rd Estate you administered the original Tennis Court Oaths. Now you’ve taken up a different position, mayor of Paris – but it doesn’t seem that you have much control of the town.

Ability: The View from the Mayor’s Mansion.
Each night you may PM the name of one player. You will learn who they came into contact with that night. (Who they targeted and who targeted them.)

Ability: Get Out the Vote!
Each night you may PM me the name of a player. If that player votes for you to be lynched your first ability will be doubled the next night. This ability may only be activated twice.

Win Condition: Town Wins

I will now read the thread, and I will give results if I need to, though I think that might be detrimental.

Your role is a mayor; close enough to government/royal stuff imo. You had since the beginning of the game to create a false claim, ready to be c/p at your convenience. That's no excuse. Especially after a whole week of free time (2 night phases).

I don't believe your false claim at all, but just for the sake of "why not ask" what were the results of your ability.

Drohn if I was a wolf why would I make a role so close to power/government? Especially if I had so much time like you said? Your argument is better going the other way, since I am town I am just showing what Celever gave me. I have nothing to hide and I want to give as much info as possible to help us win.

Here are my targets for both my abilities on each night.

Night 0: I targetted Camoclone (his RVSs...) with both of my abilities. This probably not the best move in hindsight, but I figured why not because there's nothing to go off of. This is when I saw him inspect Luispipe. This is too "convenient" for the narrow minded of you because he is dead, but it is really too bad for me that he is dead because he can't confirm this.

Night 1: I watched Athena go to some kind of meeting. She was with Machamp the Champion, GM Draclord, and WanderingWolf. They can confirm this (or maybe whoever Wandering subbed for). I used my second ability on Wailord, but it didn't matter since there was not a following day.

Night 2: I watched Celever but was blocked by Rev (obviously). I used my second ability on Drohn, but I was blocked for that as well.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Only we found out Camo was a seer when he died and you had no idea he "inspected him". He could have tried to kill him for all we know. Obvious lie.

Sorry I don't really understand what you're trying to say here...

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

You claim to have followed Camo's lynch for Luis because you saw him "inspect Luis". Your ability only shows he visited Luis and you had at the time no proof that Camo was a seer. We found out Camo was a seer after he died, therefore your reason to follow the seer because he visited someone is not valid.

In other words, you didn't know Camo inspected Luis, you only knew he visited him. You had no reason to assume he visited Luis to inspect him, he could have had any other ability (including a wolf ability) for which he was visiting Luis. Your argument makes no sense at all, since you didn't know Camo was seer when he accused Luis.

 

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

You just slipped up, grant. You said that you targeted Celever and Drohn Night 2, but not Lenny. rev3rsor has proof that you did.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Yes I can see how that is confusing but when I target someone with my watch ability I learn what they are actually doing (despite what the wording implores you to think)... it is pretty powerful which is why it's unlucky this is happening and I have to reveal this to the wolves.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

You just slipped up, grant. You said that you targeted Celever and Drohn Night 2, but not Lenny. rev3rsor has proof that you did.

I realize that, and this confuses me because I never actually targetted Lenny.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Yes I can see how that is confusing but when I target someone with my watch ability I learn what they are actually doing (despite what the wording implores you to think)... it is pretty powerful which is why it's unlucky this is happening and I have to reveal this to the wolves.

Please copy us the result PM:s that TheGuy sent you as fast as possible. The seconds are ticking.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Yes I can see how that is confusing but when I target someone with my watch ability I learn what they are actually doing (despite what the wording implores you to think)... it is pretty powerful which is why it's unlucky this is happening and I have to reveal this to the wolves.

Please copy us the result PM:s that TheGuy sent you as fast as possible. The seconds are ticking.

Ugh I need to find them I usually delete these PMs in WW. I didn't think I would need them. I will find them and c/p them asap.

 

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

You just slipped up, grant. You said that you targeted Celever and Drohn Night 2, but not Lenny. rev3rsor has proof that you did.

I realize that, and this confuses me because I never actually targetted Lenny.

Then one of you is telling the truth, and the other is lying. I'm pretty confident that I know who is.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 3 Ends August 16th

Please copy us the result PM:s that TheGuy sent you as fast as possible. The seconds are ticking.

Ugh I need to find them I usually delete these PMs in WW. I didn't think I would need them. I will find them and c/p them asap.

I don't believe you deleted PMs that have such detailed information about roles. I'm sure you're smarter than that.

Use ctrl+f TheGuy. In the user CP you can select to see 100 PMs per page so it should be easy.

It shouldn't take too long unless you're actually writing them now.