Finished Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Town Wins

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These were all the ones I could find, they don't have much detail. These are all seperate PMs, the messages directly copy/pasted.

Camoclone visited and inspected Luispipe8.

Athena visited and met with Machamp the Champion, WanderingWolf, and GM Draclord.

Your attempt to view Celever failed.

Your attempt to target Drohn failed.
 
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Thanks for the advice Drohn, I never use and was not very familiar with control + F.
 
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There are 4 other alive players, two invisibles AND SIX guests viewing the thread right now... guys really.
 
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Drohn said:
grantm1999 said:
I have not read the thread at all but just barely skimmed to know that I am heavily under suspicion. I am immediately copy/pasting my role here so that you guys can check time stamps or whatever and confirm myself town because I have not been on long enough to make a fake.

Jean Sylvain Bailly [grantm1999]
Initially President of the 3rd Estate you administered the original Tennis Court Oaths. Now you’ve taken up a different position, mayor of Paris – but it doesn’t seem that you have much control of the town.

Ability: The View from the Mayor’s Mansion.
Each night you may PM the name of one player. You will learn who they came into contact with that night. (Who they targeted and who targeted them.)

Ability: Get Out the Vote!
Each night you may PM me the name of a player. If that player votes for you to be lynched your first ability will be doubled the next night. This ability may only be activated twice.

Win Condition: Town Wins


I will now read the thread, and I will give results if I need to, though I think that might be detrimental.
Your role is a mayor; close enough to government/royal stuff imo. You had since the beginning of the game to create a false claim, ready to be c/p at your convenience. That's no excuse. Especially after a whole week of free time (2 night phases).

I don't believe your false claim at all, but just for the sake of "why not ask" what were the results of your ability.

OK I am actually heartbroken right now (like my chest had a quite shock when it happened and it's still aching a bit now. Healthy! :D) because I wrote up this big long post detailing everything this Mayor of Paris did in the war and the influence he had over everyone but then my bloody Dad disconnected my internet. We have a motto in Britain: "If technology doesn't work, switch it off and turn it back on again". Well, if you're above 36, right now. Unfortunately my Dad is in that age group. The router wasn't even the problem though, he just has a bloody old computer. Seriously he needs to learn that. Anyway, short things short I clicked post, internet wasn't connected, whole post lost.

In short my post was this: grant's character is pretty much there in terms of cleanliness. While he was guillotined after stepping down from his mayoral duties and he deigned to speak out against Marie Antoinette, he was a fantastic leader of the revolutionaries at the start of the French Revolution and he was an influential character who was fulling against the monarchy. This post is useless.

Drohn said:
Only we found out Camo was a seer when he died and you had no idea he "inspected him". He could have tried to kill him for all we know. Obvious lie.

But if I were grant in this situation I would think "OK, Camo targeted Luis last night and he chose Luis today to go for. Coincedence? Probably not!" and would have supported the lynch too.

grantm1999 said:
Drohn if I was a wolf why would I make a role so close to power/government? Especially if I had so much time like you said? Your argument is better going the other way, since I am town I am just showing what Celever gave me. What the hell did I give you? I am confused as f*ck about this right now, seriously. I know that you probably meant TheGuy here, but seriously man, you can't get names mixed up when you're under fire... I have nothing to hide and I want to give as much info as possible to help us win.

Here are my targets for both my abilities on each night.

Night 0: I targetted Camoclone (his RVSs...) with both of my abilities. This probably not the best move in hindsight, but I figured why not because there's nothing to go off of. This is when I saw him inspect Luispipe. This is too "convenient" for the narrow minded of you because he is dead, but it is really too bad for me that he is dead because he can't confirm this.

Night 1: I watched Athena go to some kind of meeting. She was with Machamp the Champion, GM Draclord, and WanderingWolf. They can confirm this (or maybe whoever Wandering subbed for). I used my second ability on Wailord, but it didn't matter since there was not a following day.

Night 2: I watched Celever but was blocked by Rev (obviously). I used my second ability on Drohn, but I was blocked for that as well.

OK -- What? You saw Athena go to some kind of meeting with those other characters..? What are there, 30 players in this game? That could definitely be the invaders I think, aka the indie group. TheGuy wouldn't reveal that much to one person though, would he? Because that would be really... well, over-powered. It's just over a one-in-seven chance to randomly hit someone in the group N0, and imagine the chances of hitting the main wolf group N0! IDK what else they could be, though.

grantm1999 said:
TwistedTurtwig said:
You just slipped up, grant. You said that you targeted Celever and Drohn Night 2, but not Lenny. rev3rsor has proof that you did.

I realize that, and this confuses me because I never actually targetted Lenny.

This confuses me too, grant. Seriously, role blocker and watcher seems kinda OP and unbalanced, don't you think? rev said that he could hook a player and see who they targeted... that's half of grant's ability right there, and about 4x as good as mine!

Oh grant, you misconstrued your results completely there! :p That doesn't mean Athena had some kind of meeting with the other 3, it means that she either targeted or was targeted by those other three separately, not together!

SORRY FOR LURKING GRANT IT'S JUST TAKEN ME AN HOUR TO MAKE A BASIC POST IN THIS PLACE BECAUSE MY FIRST POST WAS DELETED WHICH HAD SO MUCH RESEARCH PUT INTO IT UGH!

Sorry, mad :x
 
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Oh yeah, Athena, please post any happenings to you Night 2! :)
 
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I think it's entirely possible he's telling the truth, or half-truth for that matter. Both SF and PMJ had secondary abilities, some passive and some active. He could just as well be the "alpha" scum who directs the kill as well as having those secondary abilities. Just like, if I remember correctly, SF claimed to be able to see alignments or something like that.

The fact that grantm1999 claims he did not target me yet rev3rsor did is incredibly suspicious, which means one of them is lying. The fact that rev3rsor was so adamant off the bat with no targets on his back or any reason to jump up and lie makes me believe him more. At this point, both of you have gone far enough into the lie that it cannot be a misunderstanding. One of you is lying, and I believe it's you, grantm1999.

You said you thought you deleted the PMs yet here they are and honestly unless you PM'd people THAT MUCH in the past 4 days, I don't see how you could forget deleting them (or not deleting them). I don't believe your claims, and I fully expect you to flip scum.

There is the SLIGHT possibility that both of you are telling the truth and I was saved by something else, a priest or something like that. But that priest would speak up if grantm1999 was being wrongly accused. And we can't ignore the fact that rev3rsor said you DID target me. So I'm not sure there is actually a scenario where both of you are telling the truth.
 
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Celever said:
Oh yeah, Athena, please post any happenings to you Night 2! :) yes please, confirm you met with those if you want to help the town!

Lenny said:
I think it's entirely possible he's telling the truth, or half-truth for that matter. Both SF and PMJ had secondary abilities, some passive and some active. He could just as well be the "alpha" scum who directs the kill as well as having those secondary abilities. Just like, if I remember correctly, SF claimed to be able to see alignments or something like that.

The fact that grantm1999 claims he did not target me yet rev3rsor did is incredibly suspicious, which means one of them is lying. The fact that rev3rsor was so adamant off the bat with no targets on his back or any reason to jump up and lie makes me believe him more. At this point, both of you have gone far enough into the lie that it cannot be a misunderstanding. One of you is lying, and I believe it's you, grantm1999.

You said you thought you deleted the PMs yet here they are and honestly unless you PM'd people THAT MUCH in the past 4 days, I don't see how you could forget deleting them (or not deleting them). I don't believe your claims, and I fully expect you to flip scum. I looked in the trash can dude

There is the SLIGHT possibility that both of you are telling the truth and I was saved by something else, a priest or something like that. But that priest would speak up if grantm1999 was being wrongly accused.A priest would MOST DEFINITELY NOT speak up to save a townie when we are in a winning position anyway, that would be stupid. KEEP QUIET PRIEST And we can't ignore the fact that rev3rsor said you DID target me. So I'm not sure there is actually a scenario where both of you are telling the truth. It is most likely that some other tampering is at play because there's no reason Rev would randomly come out and say that

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Sorry about your post getting deleted Clev, that sucks I know how it feels. Thanks for trying to help and take the most reasonable and analytical course of action.
 
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I know that I'm going to get more slack for this no matter what the outcome, but grant has handled this situation very well, and despite the... Uh.... Considerable evidence that grant is scum, I will not be voting him if the day ends like this with no more posts (just hypothetically) because something like a bus driver could have been at play here (I think that's what it does, I've only played in a couple of games with the role and they tend to die early! D: ). I just feel that grant has made completely town-aligned posts today, and he would not make that mistake TT pointed out if he were scum. He is smart enough not to do that. My dog would be smart enough not to do that lol.

Grant, do you have any more thoughts on my last big post? Not saying you should, just wondering, as you're the centre of attention for it lol. Thanks for your pity though! :p The only real way to play mafia is to consider all situations and take the best action based on that. Or be super stubborn, like it often ends up being. Both can work out well given the circumstances, but seeing as how this is still a fresh day we should be looking at this case scientifically (Phoenix Wright, you'll know if you've played the game) and checking everything out about it! :) There are holes in this case and I would like to fill them in.

By the way, if anyone has a gif site for Phoenix Wright characters I would love to get the link! Just a little footnote there :p
 
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I didn't think there were any points in your other post that needed responding to...
Also I know nothing about Phoenix Wright other than vaguely remembering him as a character in the Blank Game WW.

I'm glad that someone at least is seeing sense in this situation and not letting their thinking get completely warped around Rev's claim.

Alright, MTC and Porygon, you've had enough time to catch up, what's going on in your heads?
 
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Kecleon-X said:
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So. Many.

Dead people...

But in all seriousness, that bites that we lost the cop. Though I can't say that I didn't see that coming, considering Camo's behavior.

But wait.

Considering the fact that he was a role cop, don't you think that perhaps it would be a good idea to lynch Luis, considering it was a role cop that went after him? I mean, it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that Luis was seer'd by Camo the night prior and he decided to try to get him lynched, making his arguments against Luis rather thin given the fact that he actually didn't have any physical evidence to begin with.

Just a couple of thoughts.

This still stands.

rev3rsor said:
I roleblocked grantm1999 last night, after being told he targeted Lenny.
##GOTCHA: grantm1999
I'll reveal my role if you guys want me to, but what I said is fact.

Oh! Okay. I'm not going to argue this at all. If he turns out to be town, then we lynch you.

##Nipah: Grantm1999
 
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Kecleon-X said:
rev3rsor said:
I roleblocked grantm1999 last night, after being told he targeted Lenny.
##GOTCHA: grantm1999
I'll reveal my role if you guys want me to, but what I said is fact.

Oh! Okay. I'm not going to argue this at all. If he turns out to be town, then we lynch you.

##Nipah: Grantm1999

DId you even read what's happened since? When you think about it, Rev is confo-town. If you lynch me, we still have lots of info to go off of and we're in a good position, but it makes Rev look scummy. THERE'S NO WAY a scum would just randomly do what rev did, so not only would lynching me lose a powerful townie role, but it makes another really powerful role look scummy. Have I not given enough proof?

It's better to try and find actual scum at this point, and if no better option occurs then I guess we'll have to lynch me to be safe :(
 
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Celever said:
Oh yeah, Athena, please post any happenings to you Night 2! :)

Athena is on vacation, I see on the OP that KoN subbed in for her, FYI. I'm reading the latest posts and give my opinion.
 
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Drohn, I'd like another response from you as you are viewing the thread right now, too. I can see that everyone is believing rev's claim, but I believe that outside forces are in play here. Grant just isn't lying right now to me... He doesn't really have the vibe. This is grant straight-up saying "I didn't do it" as opposed to yesterday where I got SF wrong. He played better than I originally thought there looking back with the perspective of him being a wolf, lol.

Luis, you're viewing the thread right now. Thoughts?

Also grant, don't worry about not having played Phoenix Wright. I've only played the first game, and I just made a reference in my post there. Nothing you really need to know rn. You may have seen on other sites during debates and everything people using characters from various different Phoenix Wright games in their various animations used to further exemplify an argument. I always thought that it'd be a blast to use them in a game of Werewolf lol.

BTW, grant, give me your top 3 anti-towns. Let's get some discussion going on here, and when you're mistakenly lynched it could be some more information for us! :)
 
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Luispipe8 said:
Celever said:
Oh yeah, Athena, please post any happenings to you Night 2! :)

Athena is on vacation, I see on the OP that KoN subbed in for her, FYI. I'm reading the latest posts and give my opinion.

Oh! Thanks! :eek:

OK, KoN, please post everything that happened to you N2 looool. You should have got the results when you subbed in! :)
 
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I don't believe grantm1999, but I do think he's doing a great job with talking himself out of it. The thing I really don't believe is that his role is seer and lookout in one. And that ability could even get doubled? Convenient the person died you claimed to use your ability on. I'm going to vote you at the end of the day unless there is solid proof that another member is more dangerous than a wolf and if you're town rev3rsor is next.
 
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RG, Luis, and TwistedTurtwig.

SF said RG was town (she's probably not, but WIFOM)

Luis I've already explained.

Twisted has always mindlessly followed others the whole game also OMGUS.
 
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Drohn said:
I don't believe grantm1999, but I do think he's doing a great job with talking himself out of it. The thing I really don't believe is that his role is seer and lookout in one. And that ability could even get doubled? Convenient the person died you claimed to use your ability on. I'm going to vote you at the end of the day unless there is solid proof that another member is more dangerous than a wolf and if you're town rev3rsor is next.

Dude thanks and all for nailing SF, but you need to think broadly now and not mindlessly go with one claim. I've given you enough facts to at least consider me innocent, I don't see why you're tunneling me without thinking of other possibilities (you're confo-town, come on!)

Maybe you and PMJ made that epic play of teaming up on SF to clear you both though, and you're scum too, but I doubt that at this point. Espcially because all Cinesra has to do is confirm or deny if you passed him/her? the item and we know what you are for sure.
 
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I want to see what KoN has to say before I continue this. What was this meeting for?
 
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Or anyone else from the meeting for that matter. :p
 
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