Finished Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Town Wins
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RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 4 Ends August 18th
Doesn't really make any sense to me that, in a group with apparently one wolf, that same wolf gets to tell the town that somebody else is a wolf. Seems ridiculous and overpowered.
Luispipe8 said:
Doesn't really make any sense to me that, in a group with apparently one wolf, that same wolf gets to tell the town that somebody else is a wolf. Seems ridiculous and overpowered.
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I agree with Keeper. I doubt TheGuy would allow a wolf that much power. I believe that by overpowered, he probably meant that the roles contain complex abilities and active effects.
I agree with Keeper. I doubt TheGuy would allow a wolf that much power. I believe that by overpowered, he probably meant that the roles contain complex abilities and active effects.
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If a radical, revolutionary newspaper group that prints propaganda against the monarchy can have a secret royalist working for them, then I'm sure that a group of militia could have an agent of the German invaders among their ranks. If I was designing a game of werewolf (which I'm always doing, at least in my head
), I'd definitely include a feature like that.
alex said:
If a radical, revolutionary newspaper group that prints propaganda against the monarchy can have a secret royalist working for them, then I'm sure that a group of militia could have an agent of the German invaders among their ranks. If I was designing a game of werewolf (which I'm always doing, at least in my head
), I'd definitely include a feature like that.
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Wailord_2, you've been unusually quiet today, and this isn't the first time I've seen you lurking. Post your thoughts, please.
Wailord_2, you've been unusually quiet today, and this isn't the first time I've seen you lurking. Post your thoughts, please.
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So, as everyone has already established, Machamp the Champion seems to be the most suspicious at the moment. I especially think his "lynch all the newspaper members until we find a wolf" is just a waste of time and lives.
Also, has anyone actually confirmed that there is a royalist sympathizer in the newspaper group? Unless I missed something, isn't this just speculation? While I agree that MtC seems scummy, if he flips town, that doesn't mean we should just attempt to lynch everyone else in the group. No one else in the newspaper group has said much to make me think that any of them are scum.
Since not much other evidence has been brought up and TheGuy has extended the deadline, I withhold my vote for now, but unless something miraculous happens, I think Machamp the Champion is our best option at the moment
So, as everyone has already established, Machamp the Champion seems to be the most suspicious at the moment. I especially think his "lynch all the newspaper members until we find a wolf" is just a waste of time and lives.
Also, has anyone actually confirmed that there is a royalist sympathizer in the newspaper group? Unless I missed something, isn't this just speculation? While I agree that MtC seems scummy, if he flips town, that doesn't mean we should just attempt to lynch everyone else in the group. No one else in the newspaper group has said much to make me think that any of them are scum.
Since not much other evidence has been brought up and TheGuy has extended the deadline, I withhold my vote for now, but unless something miraculous happens, I think Machamp the Champion is our best option at the moment
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The Current Vote Count is:
Porygon-X 3 {Newspaper}
sillykyle! 1 {Machamp the Champion}
Machamp the Champion 8 {Luispipe8, Jeremy1026, Lenny, Ice Espeon, alex, Keeper of Night, TwistedTurtwig}
12 Votes are Required to Lynch
The Current Vote Count is:
Porygon-X 3 {Newspaper}
sillykyle! 1 {Machamp the Champion}
Machamp the Champion 8 {Luispipe8, Jeremy1026, Lenny, Ice Espeon, alex, Keeper of Night, TwistedTurtwig}
12 Votes are Required to Lynch
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The game flavor has been faithful to the source material so far, so I find that Jean-Paul is too important not to include, and that he would not be a wolf in this set-up. I'm holding my vote though, as unlike yesterday, we aren't completely sure because an announcement is harder to prove and believe than role results like with rev3rsor. Though, if we lynch Machamp, his flip would be helpful either way: He flips wolf, good. He flips town, then we're better off not following the announcer and the chances of a wolf being in the newspaper group is more likely and they could even be the announcer. Wailord_2 has a point on the probability they're all town, but that would mean the announcement is rendered pointless.
Good eye, Luispipe8. Not really crucial but still worth noting for the future just in case. Oh, and it's not that hard to deduce who it is
The game flavor has been faithful to the source material so far, so I find that Jean-Paul is too important not to include, and that he would not be a wolf in this set-up. I'm holding my vote though, as unlike yesterday, we aren't completely sure because an announcement is harder to prove and believe than role results like with rev3rsor. Though, if we lynch Machamp, his flip would be helpful either way: He flips wolf, good. He flips town, then we're better off not following the announcer and the chances of a wolf being in the newspaper group is more likely and they could even be the announcer. Wailord_2 has a point on the probability they're all town, but that would mean the announcement is rendered pointless.
Good eye, Luispipe8. Not really crucial but still worth noting for the future just in case. Oh, and it's not that hard to deduce who it is
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Well, I try to keep an eye on those things because of the fact that are more people with an Ability similar to mineand also because I'm obsessive as hell when it comes to details like those xD But yeah, now we know that there are also Abilities that work the opposite way. And can you elaborate on that, please? I don't see anything obvious right now about Machamp's voters. (and sorry if it is in fact very obvious, it's past midnight and I'm not at my best cognitive performance... )
Reinforce said:Good eye, Luispipe8. Not really crucial but still worth noting for the future just in case. Oh, and it's not that hard to deduce who it is
Well, I try to keep an eye on those things because of the fact that are more people with an Ability similar to mine
)
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Yup, that's good.
Pfft. Well... It's not obvious, I admit. You'd need to do some detective work. Also this is only applicable if that 2 vote weight is a passive effect of one of the players and not when it was bestowed by someone else, just like your ability to give 0 vote weight. Just compare all the final vote counts in the past few days with the current vote count and you can deduce who among Machamp's voters have a high possibility of having vote weight of 2.
Yup, that's good.
Pfft. Well... It's not obvious, I admit. You'd need to do some detective work. Also this is only applicable if that 2 vote weight is a passive effect of one of the players and not when it was bestowed by someone else, just like your ability to give 0 vote weight. Just compare all the final vote counts in the past few days with the current vote count and you can deduce who among Machamp's voters have a high possibility of having vote weight of 2.
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What the heck is there to defend against? Someone anonymously accused me of being a wolf. I don't know what else I can do, besides claim. I'd really rather not, but I will if the day comes closer to ending and I'm still being lynched.
Yeah, now that you mention it, it does seem unlikely. My guess is Jean-Paul just has a hunch on me. I'd like to wait until sillykyle pops up, so hopefully he can tell us if he's Jean-Paul or not.
Why does everyone keep saying this? >.> Of course we should lynch them until we find a wolf! There's a 99% chance there's a wolf in here, why should we not try to find it?
I don't like how you're withholding information from the town. All it takes is 1 scum to find it for all the others to know it, so it's probably best if you just tell the town so they don't have to waste their time.
Hey, other L'Ami du members, try to be more active! Once I'm lynch (which looks like is definitely happening at this point :\) we need to find the wolf in the L'Ami du group. Lurking is very anti town right now, because you're not helping to prove the town you're less scummy than the other L'Ami du. Even if you think I'm scum, and you think it doesn't matter, when I flip town, you're in trouble.
Chaos Jackal said:
What the heck is there to defend against? Someone anonymously accused me of being a wolf. I don't know what else I can do, besides claim. I'd really rather not, but I will if the day comes closer to ending and I'm still being lynched.
Ice Espeon said:
Yeah, now that you mention it, it does seem unlikely. My guess is Jean-Paul just has a hunch on me. I'd like to wait until sillykyle pops up, so hopefully he can tell us if he's Jean-Paul or not.
Wailord_2 said:
Why does everyone keep saying this? >.> Of course we should lynch them until we find a wolf! There's a 99% chance there's a wolf in here, why should we not try to find it?
Reinforce said:
I don't like how you're withholding information from the town. All it takes is 1 scum to find it for all the others to know it, so it's probably best if you just tell the town so they don't have to waste their time.
Hey, other L'Ami du members, try to be more active! Once I'm lynch (which looks like is definitely happening at this point :\) we need to find the wolf in the L'Ami du group. Lurking is very anti town right now, because you're not helping to prove the town you're less scummy than the other L'Ami du. Even if you think I'm scum, and you think it doesn't matter, when I flip town, you're in trouble.
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I'm not rally seeing the priority if finding out the double voter at the moment.
As a group, i do trust our editor i doubt he will be lying about you. Even if it's a hunch, i don't see the harm of following it. If you flipped town, the news group will fall apart anyway. But if you flipped scum, then we could be pretty strong bond. The editor might even reveal the source to the remainder of us.
##vote Machamp The Champion
I have to agree that the journalist should post more on what they can share to the public since the journalist meeting are pretty much suspended since no one would risk sharing more in the groupnwith the scum still not being lynched yet.
You're an experience player MtC, especially amongs us 4. Comparing activeness, i see that you could be the only one leaking information out of the newspaper to the scum.
I'm not rally seeing the priority if finding out the double voter at the moment.
As a group, i do trust our editor i doubt he will be lying about you. Even if it's a hunch, i don't see the harm of following it. If you flipped town, the news group will fall apart anyway. But if you flipped scum, then we could be pretty strong bond. The editor might even reveal the source to the remainder of us.
##vote Machamp The Champion
I have to agree that the journalist should post more on what they can share to the public since the journalist meeting are pretty much suspended since no one would risk sharing more in the groupnwith the scum still not being lynched yet.
You're an experience player MtC, especially amongs us 4. Comparing activeness, i see that you could be the only one leaking information out of the newspaper to the scum.
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Wailord, we do know for a fact that there is a wolf in the newspaper group otherwise grantm1999 would have no knowledge about it (that was his biggest mistake IMO).
Even though I find it unlikely that Jean-Paul is a wolf, if he was then I think that the wolves could get a far more easy lynch if they wanted to (If MtC flips town, then Jean-Paul has no reputation left and will probably be lynched if we find out who it is). When there were seemingly no leads, I don't see the attraction for the wolves to use what would become a one use ability (no one would trust it afterwards) just to get a townie lynch that probably would have happened anyway. MtC's defence at the moment seems to be 'you'll regret this when I flip town' which isn't really very convincing.
Wailord, we do know for a fact that there is a wolf in the newspaper group otherwise grantm1999 would have no knowledge about it (that was his biggest mistake IMO).
Even though I find it unlikely that Jean-Paul is a wolf, if he was then I think that the wolves could get a far more easy lynch if they wanted to (If MtC flips town, then Jean-Paul has no reputation left and will probably be lynched if we find out who it is). When there were seemingly no leads, I don't see the attraction for the wolves to use what would become a one use ability (no one would trust it afterwards) just to get a townie lynch that probably would have happened anyway. MtC's defence at the moment seems to be 'you'll regret this when I flip town' which isn't really very convincing.
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... Seriously?
I told Luispipe in exact detail how I deduced who your doublevoter could be. And since it is a post that everyone could see, I wouldn't be able to stop everyone from doing it too. It may have been roundabout, but it was in no way "withholding information." If that had been my intent, then I wouldn't have posted that I had figured out who it could be AND how I did so. And if I were a wolf, I wouldn't even bother posting it in public and just go tell my teammates directly in the wolf chat if I were "withholding information". Your accusation is preposterous.
And if you were to ask "Why didn't I just say it directly?" It's because it's a deduction... and deductions can be wrong. I could be wrong. So I ain't stating it out here as fact because I acknowledge that there are still so many unknown factors that could possibly prove my deduction wrong. And as GM Draclord has pointed out, it isn't all that important to pinpoint who it is at the moment because it's not the game-changing information that decides who's wolf or town. It's something we need to find out for sure only when we're claiming roles. Which we aren't.
Really, the fact that you're jumping and painting suspicion on people for false and trivial reasons isn't helping your case.
Machamp the Champion said:
... Seriously?
I told Luispipe in exact detail how I deduced who your doublevoter could be. And since it is a post that everyone could see, I wouldn't be able to stop everyone from doing it too. It may have been roundabout, but it was in no way "withholding information." If that had been my intent, then I wouldn't have posted that I had figured out who it could be AND how I did so. And if I were a wolf, I wouldn't even bother posting it in public and just go tell my teammates directly in the wolf chat if I were "withholding information". Your accusation is preposterous.
And if you were to ask "Why didn't I just say it directly?" It's because it's a deduction... and deductions can be wrong. I could be wrong. So I ain't stating it out here as fact because I acknowledge that there are still so many unknown factors that could possibly prove my deduction wrong. And as GM Draclord has pointed out, it isn't all that important to pinpoint who it is at the moment because it's not the game-changing information that decides who's wolf or town. It's something we need to find out for sure only when we're claiming roles. Which we aren't.
Really, the fact that you're jumping and painting suspicion on people for false and trivial reasons isn't helping your case.
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##Smack Machamp the Champion
In his latest post, he implied he wants to know the identity of Jean-Paul, someone who is confirmed Town. I find that incredibly scummy for obvious reasons.
##Smack Machamp the Champion
In his latest post, he implied he wants to know the identity of Jean-Paul, someone who is confirmed Town. I find that incredibly scummy for obvious reasons.
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