Finished Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - The Order of the Phoenix is the Winner!

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RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Sorry guys, still cruising!
I got a few mins of wifi to spare so I'll vote quickly before I have to go!
I'm gonna ##vote: Bbninjas just cos he's acting like such a child over this RVS stuff... :p (sorry for backstabbing a fellow aussie :p )
My vote will probably change when I get back so I can read through things! :)
I'm back soon!!
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Machamp The Champion said:
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I don't understand the suspicion towards Lenny. His posts seem insightful and generally helpful for the town.
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The problem with his 'insightful and generally helpful' posts are that they are generally flawed logically. Anyhow, I'm asking you experienced players if this is Lenny's norm play since I haven't really seen his.

Camoclone said:
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bbninjas said:
That's my point. Instead of scum being required to do it later in the game, they could get them out now and still seem 'towny'.
In what way does pushing a lynch on an inactive townie make scum look "towny"?
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It's better than pushing a lynch on someone who's active on Day 1 and there aren't any notable leads. Anyway, I don't want to pursue this conversation as it is largely off-topic, and 'detrimental to the town', as you would say.

Squirtle Squad said:
Sorry guys, still cruising!
I got a few mins of wifi to spare so I'll vote quickly before I have to go!
I'm gonna ##vote: Bbninjas just cos he's acting like such a child over this RVS stuff... :p (sorry for backstabbing a fellow aussie :p )
My vote will probably change when I get back so I can read through things! :)
I'm back soon!!
A reason, yay. *rollseyes*
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Ok, really. me getting my role late wasn't meant to happen, so should we really be using it to try and clear me? i know it helps but it just seems wrong to me.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Teal is kinda scummy.
Lenny is scum.
##ASSAULTLASER: LENNY

Sorry i have been busy and just caught up. The only thing I know is that Lenny is scum, the rest of this day 1 chatter is nonsense.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

grantm1999 said:
Teal is kinda scummy.
Lenny is scum.
##ASSAULTLASER: LENNY

Sorry i have been busy and just caught up. The only thing I know is that Lenny is scum, the rest of this day 1 chatter is nonsense.

As that based on what I wrote or did you get an N0 lead?
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

grantm1999 said:
Teal is kinda scummy.
Lenny is scum.
##ASSAULTLASER: LENNY

Sorry i have been busy and just caught up. The only thing I know is that Lenny is scum, the rest of this day 1 chatter is nonsense.

Elaborate.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

grantm1999 said:
##ASSAULTLASER: LENNY

Taking this into account this time (I'm giving a first time to each player). Not the next one.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Luispipe8 said:
grantm1999 said:
##ASSAULTLASER: LENNY

Taking this into account this time (I'm giving a first time to each player). Not the next one.

Discuss a Lynch and Vote/Unvote in the process (Use ##VOTE: Player and ##UNVOTE: Player). If you were to change your vote, you must Unvote first. You may not use other verbs to Vote/Unvote.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Luispipe8 said:
^ Yes...?

Just for Grant in case he doesn't get what you mean. The reason he didn't use VOTE was probably because he didn't read the OP, and if he didn't read the OP then he probably wouldn't know what you're talking about. Not directed at you :p
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Oh, ok, thanks for clearing that up. Now...

Current Vote Count:

  • Teal: 5 (BigfootAUS, Drohn, bbninjas, Machamp The Champion, TwistedTurtwig, Camoclone, TheGuy)
  • BigfootAUS: 0 (Reinforce, GM Draclord)
  • Reinforce: 0 (bbninjas)
  • bbninjas: 4 (Vom, Reinforce, BigfootAUS, Cinesra, GM Draclord, AlexanderTheAwesome, One Approved, Camoclone)
  • Vom: 0 (GM Draclord)
  • GM Draclord: 1 (bbninjas, BigfootAUS)
  • rev3rsor: 1 (Machamp The Champion, Keeper of Night)
  • Celever: 0 (Machamp The Champion, Camoclone, Drohn)
  • Ice Espeon: 0 (TheGuy)
  • Omega Soul: 0 (Teal)
  • PMJ: 0 (TheGuy)
  • TwistedTurtwig: 0 (One Approved)
  • Lenny: 3 (AlexanderTheAwesome, bbninjas, grantm1999)
  • AlexanderTheAwesome: 0 (Teal)
  • Machamp The Champion: 1 (Teal)

Notes:
  • 16 votes to end the day before time, with a Lynch.
  • Current lynch candidate(s): Teal.
  • ~50 hours remain before Day ends.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

bbninjas said:
Luispipe8 said:
^ Yes...?

Just for Grant in case he doesn't get what you mean. The reason he didn't use VOTE was probably because he didn't read the OP, and if he didn't read the OP then he probably wouldn't know what you're talking about. Not directed at you :p

I feel like his post was a joke
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

AlexanderTheAwesome said:
bbninjas said:
Just for Grant in case he doesn't get what you mean. The reason he didn't use VOTE was probably because he didn't read the OP, and if he didn't read the OP then he probably wouldn't know what you're talking about. Not directed at you :p

I feel like his post was a joke

Your point?
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

9 Pages

Can't do much rn guys, my PC is crazy as I changed my internet thingy and I'm trying to solve the problems, I will have to use my sister's Mac.

##VOTE:TEAL
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Lenny said:
Also, some of you guys are claiming that Teal put so much emphasis on it and assuming (aka tunneling in my opinion) he's guilty, when he's simply defended himself from the initial assumptions put on him. I think all of you (*cough*TwistedTurtwig*cough*MachampTheChampion*cough*) need to take a step back and reevaluate your argument.

> implying that the single post in which I expressed suspicion of Teal qualifies as tunneling

grantm1999 said:
Teal is kinda scummy.
Lenny is scum.
##ASSAULTLASER: LENNY

Sorry i have been busy and just caught up. The only thing I know is that Lenny is scum, the rest of this day 1 chatter is nonsense.

I'm willing to believe this for the time being, although I'd prefer if if you expanded on it. If it's just a hunch, then your claim bears a lot less weight. Also, it appears that we share a common passive ability. ;)

##UNVOTE: Teal
##VOTE: Lenny


Additionally, the inactives should really get to posting. You all know who you are.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

TT, I don't understand why you're believing grant here... Especially since you think you have a cc with him...
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

TwistedTurtwig said:
Lenny said:
Also, some of you guys are claiming that Teal put so much emphasis on it and assuming (aka tunneling in my opinion) he's guilty, when he's simply defended himself from the initial assumptions put on him. I think all of you (*cough*TwistedTurtwig*cough*MachampTheChampion*cough*) need to take a step back and reevaluate your argument.

> implying that the single post in which I expressed suspicion of Teal qualifies as tunneling

grantm1999 said:
Teal is kinda scummy.
Lenny is scum.
##ASSAULTLASER: LENNY

Sorry i have been busy and just caught up. The only thing I know is that Lenny is scum, the rest of this day 1 chatter is nonsense.

I'm willing to believe this for the time being, although I'd prefer if if you expanded on it. If it's just a hunch, then your claim bears a lot less weight. Also, it appears that we share a common passive ability. ;)

##UNVOTE: Teal
##VOTE: Lenny


Additionally, the inactives should really get to posting. You all know who you are.


Celever said:
TT, I don't understand why you're believing grant here... Especially since you think you have a cc with him...

Lenny is yet to post the posts that MtC and T&T are tunnelling in, like I asked, and has some very flawed logic. That's the main reason I'm voting for him. The added fact the Grant has some hunch or lead helps my case more.

Celever, both TT and Grant have increased vote counts, which I can see confirmed in the most recent vote update (and I realised before TT's post).
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

I actually originally wrote a much longer response to this post (my response was this).

In the end I decided to shorten it down to what I posted because I thought the original post might be helpful for the wolves too. I tried to get the point across after that post but it didn't seem to work.

Seeing as the players here still don't seem to understand how really Werewolf works, I feel like I should just post what I wrote up at first. So please enjoy, and read it with a lot of thought (ofc I had saved it in Word in case I would decide to post it after all like I did now):
Scum (almost) never nightkills inactives.

Lynching inactives without giving them a chance for defending would be scummy. Otherwise, going for inactives is not a bad thing because if scum kills the active players, that leads to the game being full of inactives, which will make leading the town a lot easier, and pretty much secures a scum win.

In that sense, either activating everyone or getting rid of inactives benefits the town more than scum, when we assume that inactives have the regular chances of being town/scum.

I have "always" been supporting, and will always fully support keeping all active players around until day 4-ish with no exceptions unless there is real evidence. That means that I will not support active player lynches like Camoclone, bbninjas or Celever earlygame, unless there is solid (and I really mean solid) proof they are anti-town. By lynching active players, as long as they are town, we help scum immensly. The only way for a town to win is by:
- Consisting of active and knowlegeable players lategame
- Having investigative results lategame

The real scum win condition is thus:
- eliminate active and knowledgeable town players
- eliminate investigative roles

Even if they happen to be scum, not lynching these actives early results in the town having a lot more words-from-the-wolves-material to go off after they are lynched. Words-from-the-wolves should be rechecked for hints once they flip - with anti-buddying in mind.

My posts so far are mostly meta, and you just have to deal with it. If that makes me scummy, I can only say "ok".

PS.: Yes, I just coined two new terms. Words-from-the-wolves and anti-buddying.
WFW = What confirmed wolves said while they were alive, the stances they took towards people. After a wolf flips his WFW should be checked.
Anti-buddying = A common wolf action, wolves attacking wolves earlygame to appear as if they weren't on the same side if WFW are checked later (or just to leave an impression). Somewhat related to WIFOM, but can still possibly be caught.

Since OMGUS is so popular even though I disagree with what it actually means, I will also gift you DLAE - "don't lynch the actives earlygame" - to make my point clear. (Scum will eventually kill them anyway to achieve their win condition.)

Please have fun with tearing appart this post.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

My vote against MtC is for 100% real. I really think that he knows better than to go for an active and experienced player like me D1 with this "case" against me. Incredibly scummy imo.

PS.: Pressuring =/= lynching.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Teal said:

Thanks heaps Teal!! This will be really helpful now and in the future.
 
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