Finished Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Town Win!

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RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

grantm1999 said:
grantm1999 said:
ok I just reread the flavor part about equalists and red lotus. The equalists don't seem overly malicious, they sound more like a cult to me. I would guess that they can only remove someone's ability at night. Actually, we can prove this if the equalists did not target scum night 0.

If the person (if any) steps forward and tells us their bending ability was removed night 0, we can safely lynch Celever. If not, then either I'm wrong about their ability, they targeted Red Lotus, or they targeted someone who was already a non bender.

MUFFIN THOUGHTS STAT

This post was made AFTER I made that first post that yall are attacking. Note that I said "ok I just reread the favor part about equalists and red lotus". I said reread because I didn't want to admit at the time I hadn't actually read it before. And you can see in this post how I talk more specifiacally about those factions a fter I actually understood what they are.

The case against me is incredibly flimsy..

Also ATA your point about me directing attention away from myself is completely and totally invalid. Not only did I NOT HAVE ANY attention on me whatsoever at the time I made that post, Celever had a lot of attention already.

What would be the point of me making that long thought out post day 1 if I was scum? To seem town? Obviously I didn't even do that. I was simply explaining why I believed Celever to be a legitimate lynch target as opposed to other semi RVS nonsense.

##ICE ESPEON you didn't answer my question, can players be targeted after they die?
Celever is still a good lynch.

Reading the flavour doesn't matter because there was discussion by the players in-thread about the Equalists earlier. You also JUST claimed that you thought they were the "main" scum faction at the time, whereas in this post you are implying you didn't think they existed at all. BTW, answer this please:
Celever said:
grantm1999 said:
literally the entire case against me is specifying red lotus as opposed to the equalists. The reason for this is quite simple, I'm a derp and did not read the flavor until after i made my first post.

When i made that first post, I thought the equalists were the main scum team, and the red lotus was an indie faction that had to kill four specific players.

*goes to get proof*

Why didn't you think KoN could be a part of the main scum team?

What would be the point of you making a superlong post Day 1 as scum? What's the point as town? To contribute, as scum you want to look like you're contributing. The only difference is that you slipped several times, and now you haven't defended anything even remotely well.

Camoclone said:
grantm1999 said:
What would be the point of me making that long thought out post day 1 if I was scum? To seem town? Obviously I didn't even do that. I was simply explaining why I believed Celever to be a legitimate lynch target as opposed to other semi RVS nonsense.

Alright now you returned to being regular Grant. You had a thing going for a little while.

I know that I can't verify this, but this was posted ~15 seconds after Grant posted. This was obviously planned in their scumchat, I have no doubt about it. Either that, or Camo really isn't even reading properly any more, in which case there really is no point paying any attention to anything he says.

Camoclone said:
Celever is still scum. Grant is still town. Can we please get votes on Celever instead of just messing around?

There's a reason people aren't hopping on my bandwagon, and that's that it makes no sense. Camo's gonna post saying "it's the best option today" or "it makes sense" or something along those lines, calling it now.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

grantm1999 said:
grantm1999 said:
ok I just reread the flavor part about equalists and red lotus. The equalists don't seem overly malicious, they sound more like a cult to me. I would guess that they can only remove someone's ability at night. Actually, we can prove this if the equalists did not target scum night 0.

If the person (if any) steps forward and tells us their bending ability was removed night 0, we can safely lynch Celever. If not, then either I'm wrong about their ability, they targeted Red Lotus, or they targeted someone who was already a non bender.

MUFFIN THOUGHTS STAT

This post was made AFTER I made that first post that yall are attacking. Note that I said "ok I just reread the favor part about equalists and red lotus". I said reread because I didn't want to admit at the time I hadn't actually read it before. And you can see in this post how I talk more specifiacally about those factions a fter I actually understood what they are.
Ok, however it's not like we are voting you solely because you forgot about a faction. Simple mistake, I get it.
The case against me is incredibly flimsy..
Ok Celever grant.

Also ATA your point about me directing attention away from myself is completely and totally invalid. Not only did I NOT HAVE ANY attention on me whatsoever at the time I made that post, Celever had a lot of attention already.
I never said you had any attention on you, however by pointing out Celever faults this would make you seem town (the whole goal of the anti-town teams), and direct any attention that COULD be placed on you, away from you. I will dig up the point that really made me think you are anti-town in a second, the whole directing attention away is just a supporting point. Even if that part is wrong, there are other reasons I stated to vote for you.

What would be the point of me making that long thought out post day 1 if I was scum? To seem town? Obviously I didn't even do that. I was simply explaining why I believed Celever to be a legitimate lynch target as opposed to other semi RVS nonsense.
Um yeah, that seems like a really valid reason to post, to seem town.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

AlexanderTheAwesome said:
grantm1999 said:
Also ATA your point about me directing attention away from myself is completely and totally invalid. Not only did I NOT HAVE ANY attention on me whatsoever at the time I made that post, Celever had a lot of attention already.
I never said you had any attention on you, however by pointing out Celever faults this would make you seem town (the whole goal of the anti-town teams), and direct any attention that COULD be placed on you, away from you. I will dig up the point that really made me think you are anti-town in a second, the whole directing attention away is just a supporting point. Even if that part is wrong, there are other reasons I stated to vote for you.

Celever- you can easily disprove this by posting the bbcode, sorta.
Ok this just flat out makes me think you're anti-town. Most people probably wouldn't agree with me here but here is my reason. You're saying "post the bbcode that will confirm you" Ok, fine. I agree IF he posted the bbcode he would be 100% confo town, the bbcode hasn't been shown yet. However you said "sorta"? This is what that says to me: "post the bbcode, so that I know what the code is (just in case), and after that's all said and done I will come up with an explanation as to why we should lynch you anyways. This definitely doesn't make me feel good about you.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Celever said:
Camoclone said:
Alright now you returned to being regular Grant. You had a thing going for a little while.

I know that I can't verify this, but this was posted ~15 seconds after Grant posted. This was obviously planned in their scumchat, I have no doubt about it. Either that, or Camo really isn't even reading properly any more, in which case there really is no point paying any attention to anything he says.

More votes on Celever please. I mean honestly.

Camoclone said:
Celever is still scum. Grant is still town. Can we please get votes on Celever instead of just messing around?

There's a reason people aren't hopping on my bandwagon, and that's that it makes no sense.Camo's gonna post saying "it's the best option today" or "it makes sense" or something along those lines, calling it now.

Ok... If you say so. We will see.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

This is silly. Celever needs to be pressured the heck out of. Also anyone notice how KoN has gone silent? Coincidence? I think not.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

As for the bbcode thing isn't it obvious? Scum should get a copy of a town rolecard every game so that explains the "sort of". Anyone not voting Celever should be.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

I am actually tempted to vote for Celever because he has said, and done a lot of stupid stuff. KoN and Camo are the only other valid votes, so.....
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

lol, Keeper has school around this time of the day in weekdays. :v

While I do see where Grant might have slipped, I'd rather focus on this:

grantm1999 said:
@Celever in my first post I referred to the equalists as "scum"

Camoclone said:
grantm1999 said:
What would be the point of me making that long thought out post day 1 if I was scum? To seem town? Obviously I didn't even do that. I was simply explaining why I believed Celever to be a legitimate lynch target as opposed to other semi RVS nonsense.

Alright now you returned to being regular Grant. You had a thing going for a little while.

(go up a little bit or click the green arrow in Grant's post)

As Celever mentioned, the posting times are extremely close. Maybe not exactly 15 seconds like Celever said, but, implying that coincidentally Grant posted at 17:20:00 and Camo at 17:21:59, it's still a 2 min. gap that can only be achieved by:

a) Posting immediately after Grant without his post appearing, which is impossible given how he actually quoted Grant's post.
b) Planning everything beforehand and being ready to post ASA Grant posted, which is of course what we have here.

Take into consideration that Camo had to:

  • Wait for Grant's post to actually be there and to check the Thread just when Grant posted.
  • Read Grant's post.
  • Quote Grant's post.
  • Write the response.

ALL in less than 2 mins. The only way you could have done this was by already knowing what Grant was going to do and what you were going to say. Celever's time frame fits perfectly.

I'm leaving my vote on Camo, I'm 100% sure he's not Town. And regardless of Camo's flip, Grant's still worth looking into for today's earlier "slip" (which isn't even that big of a deal, actually, but it's all adding up).




Celever said:
If you were on the scum team, or possibly the mason group, in Wizarding Wars, you'll know that I'm not this good at remembering things. Hell, I missed out the masonry paragraph in my fake claim when I first posted it in the mason chat back then! >~>

lol, yeah, that was epic. I laughed way too hard for the fact that you missed it and that your mason partners let it slip through. :p
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Time stamps aren't a logical argument when refreshing exists and when what I posted takes 2 seconds to type.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

OMG Luis and Muffin posted 1 minute apart. SCUM CHAT BUDDIES!
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

AlexanderTheAwesome said:
Camoclone said:
That doesn't change the fact that it is scummy.

True, True, I guess I can't argue with that, but it just isn't enough for me.

Camoclone said:
AlexanderTheAwesome said:
True, True, I guess I can't argue with that, but it just isn't enough for me.

It's better than any other case at this point in the game.

1 minute apart. Scumchat buddies boyz.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Luispipe8 said:
I'm leaving my vote on Camo, I'm 100% sure he's not Town. And regardless of Camo's flip, Grant's still worth looking into for today's earlier "slip" (which isn't even that big of a deal, actually, but it's all adding up).

Now this is something that actually matters instead of timestamps. Especially with this being D1.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

AlexanderTheAwesome said:
Camoclone said:
1 minute apart. Scumchat buddies boyz.
you're being a little ridiculous

No I'm not... We are scumbuddies. We planned that post sequence. Remember? Lets talk about it in the scumchat.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

I'm certainly getting more and more confirmation Camo's not town every time he posts. :v

Me and Muffing have nothing to do since we discussed completely different topics and that you quoted Grant's post.

I'm still positive on your lynch.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

lol, Muffin*

You get my point.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

No bro. The timestamps! You are scumbuddies! So are me and AtA! Did you not read the secret convo that we slipped?
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

And we planned the 1 minute apart post that we made earlier.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

OH DANG! I slipped again. I responded to you 1 minute after you posted. I'm so sorry fellow scum buddies.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

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Celever, got any room for me wherever you are...?
 
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