What Archetype will be best in the 06-07 season

...Okay, first off, HOW IS CANE9 BETTER IN THIS FORMAT THEN LAST FORMAT???? It has no swoop, it has no purpose for lunalock, it has no back-up, so please explain how it can be considered anything more then a second-rate deck??? Bannetee is soo over-hyped. Anything that can 1 shot it and not be 1 shooted back (e.g. shiftry, sally, charizard d) crush the crap out of it. Don't give me "Well, hes a stage one and so he out-speeds all that "crap"" because its faster but it won't win in the long run. It also has no answer to safeguard...dustox hasn't died off. I think Pablo was testing it at worlds for a reason. If you think about it, this is the new zap-turn-dos, fast and hard hitting, but loses in the long run. How will eggs not be good? It has the best starter in the game (and probly in pokemon history) with amazing speed on its evos, and if you let the casty sit out there for more then 3 turns, you sure'll have lost the match. CC only adds insult to injury, but I personally think that curse power is the best tool to use in eggs.
 
Papi/Manny said:
...Okay, first off, HOW IS CANE9 BETTER IN THIS FORMAT THEN LAST FORMAT???? It has no swoop, it has no purpose for lunalock, it has no back-up, so please explain how it can be considered anything more then a second-rate deck??? Bannetee is soo over-hyped. Anything that can 1 shot it and not be 1 shooted back (e.g. shiftry, sally, charizard d) crush the crap out of it. Don't give me "Well, hes a stage one and so he out-speeds all that "crap"" because its faster but it won't win in the long run. It also has no answer to safeguard...dustox hasn't died off. I think Pablo was testing it at worlds for a reason. If you think about it, this is the new zap-turn-dos, fast and hard hitting, but loses in the long run. How will eggs not be good? It has the best starter in the game (and probly in pokemon history) with amazing speed on its evos, and if you let the casty sit out there for more then 3 turns, you sure'll have lost the match. CC only adds insult to injury, but I personally think that curse power is the best tool to use in eggs.

well, if u put 4-4 RK9, 4 PETM, 4 mary's, some switches, and u probally get ur self almost T2 RK9
 
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Papi/Manny said:
TylerM said:
Cessestian Crystal doesn't hurt Banette ED....FYI...
WTF...unless theres another banette coming out, every banette in the format gets affected by CC..furthermore, I was refering to the doom lock against rai-eggs...But rai-eggs can still use lati@s lock.


WTF yourself! Banette EX DOESNT need Shady Move to win..And, although you disagree that speed wins games(Which is why ZapTurn won a WHOLE bunch of Tournaments, then evolved into ZRE)CC STILL doesnt TOUCH Banette...How can they play it if DOOM is already out?And if they play 4 CC, then they lose.Why? CONSISTANCY AND SPEED!
 
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TylerM said:
Papi/Manny said:
TylerM said:
Cessestian Crystal doesn't hurt Banette ED....FYI...
WTF...unless theres another banette coming out, every banette in the format gets affected by CC..furthermore, I was refering to the doom lock against rai-eggs...But rai-eggs can still use lati@s lock.


WTF yourself! Banette EX DOESNT need Shady Move to win..And, although you disagree that speed wins games(Which is why ZapTurn won a WHOLE bunch of Tournaments, then evolved into ZRE)CC STILL doesnt TOUCH Banette...How can they play it if DOOM is already out?And if they play 4 CC, then they lose.Why? CONSISTANCY AND SPEED!
Ummmm, hahaha. zapturndos won maybe 4 tournys that even counted. ZRE didn't do a whole lot either...but I progress. How do you constaly get a 2-2 doom line out before I hit a single one of my CC? And like I said, who says they have to drop lati@s lock?? They lose because even though by t4 they have 3-5 stage 1s out that they can scramble with thier 10 card hand to 1 shot you crappy bannettes into death and swarm with split bomb with cursed stone in play with CC out their...yup, I see that happening....;/ Please read posts before posting them...and maybe think about things...
 
triple post ftw...I don't have apprentice, but if he does have OCTGN, I'll be willing to prove myself right (even though I've never played eggs myself nor even have one built right now, but I'm confident in my skills and about the matchup).
 
I think that flariados will become very good in this format also metanite might get better. I do not like metanite but that is just me saying I do not like to discard energy even though you can get them back.
 
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ShadowX said:
I think that flariados will become very good in this format also metanite might get better. I do not like metanite but that is just me saying I do not like to discard energy even though you can get them back.
not with BF becoming a staple it won't. unless it runs 4-5 stadiums and 3 windstorms or so. also there'll be lots of pokepower haters out there *coughshiftryexcough*

Arcanine out.
 
yes I know about shiftry ex but he is weak to grass so 1 reactive poisen for 70 which is easily obtainable and OHKO to shiftry ex. Metanite will die to shiftry ex because of it's use of delta control but I think that flariados will be able to survive. Also what will the format be next year I thought I had heard it will be UF on but I do not know.
 
In order to have ANY clue to what will be played in the future, pay VERY close attention to the local tournaments...
 
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GODZILLA said:
In order to have ANY clue to what will be played in the future, pay VERY close attention to the City Championships...

Fixed.
 
Well i think that this season i will be playing flariados,Eevolution just because i love the deck and either burning liability,lunasol or Ludicargo. What decks will you guy's be playing?
 
I do not really like most delta decks. There are a couple that are ok but overall there are not that many that are good. So what decks are you guy's gping to run or are thoinking of running?
 
I'm going to come out right now and say Sceptile ex. Its been testing out really well against ex decks and non-ex decks alike, and, right now, I don't think it has a really bad matchup at all.
 
Papi/Manny said:
I'm going to come out right now and say Sceptile ex. Its been testing out really well against ex decks and non-ex decks alike, and, right now, I don't think it has a really bad matchup at all.

i think it's atk is quite low, does it really works?
 
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Papi/Manny said:
triple post ftw...I don't have apprentice, but if he does have OCTGN, I'll be willing to prove myself right (even though I've never played eggs myself nor even have one built right now, but I'm confident in my skills and about the matchup).


You've NEVER played Eggs?And your sitting here telling me its better than Bannette?You dont know the TERRIBLE draws eggs has then.The second Castform dies(WHich with this deck WILL be turn 2) YOu cant draw to save your live!BTW, your sitting here telling me all this stuff...Did you know, that after I kill you Castform turn2, you have ALL basics?Even if all you do is sac stuff and then one hit me, I've been powering up my Bannette's as well.PLUS, I'll be shady moving(unless you do have CC out) any Damage on to it.Eiter way, I STILL one hit it after you kill my bannette.Do me a favor, build this deck, and effin TEST IT!Test it against eggs, I dont care...Till tehn STFU!
 
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TylerM said:
Papi/Manny said:
triple post ftw...I don't have apprentice, but if he does have OCTGN, I'll be willing to prove myself right (even though I've never played eggs myself nor even have one built right now, but I'm confident in my skills and about the matchup).


You've NEVER played Eggs?And your sitting here telling me its better than Bannette?You dont know the TERRIBLE draws eggs has then.The second Castform dies(WHich with this deck WILL be turn 2) YOu cant draw to save your live!BTW, your sitting here telling me all this stuff...Did you know, that after I kill you Castform turn2, you have ALL basics?Even if all you do is sac stuff and then one hit me, I've been powering up my Bannette's as well.PLUS, I'll be shady moving(unless you do have CC out) any Damage on to it.Eiter way, I STILL one hit it after you kill my bannette.Do me a favor, build this deck, and effin TEST IT!Test it against eggs, I dont care...Till tehn STFU!

Please inform me on how get 2 Supporters in the discard turn 2. Seriously, does Banette use the Holon Engine?
 
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TYranitarFReak said:
Papi/Manny said:
I'm going to come out right now and say Sceptile ex. Its been testing out really well against ex decks and non-ex decks alike, and, right now, I don't think it has a really bad matchup at all.

i think it's atk is quite low, does it really works?
Yes, its incredibley consistant and, even though it looks like it can't for a lot, late game (when it matters the most), it performs the best.
You've NEVER played Eggs?And your sitting here telling me its better than Bannette?You dont know the TERRIBLE draws eggs has then.The second Castform dies(WHich with this deck WILL be turn 2) YOu cant draw to save your live!BTW, your sitting here telling me all this stuff...Did you know, that after I kill you Castform turn2, you have ALL basics?Even if all you do is sac stuff and then one hit me, I've been powering up my Bannette's as well.PLUS, I'll be shady moving(unless you do have CC out) any Damage on to it.Eiter way, I STILL one hit it after you kill my bannette.Do me a favor, build this deck, and effin TEST IT!Test it against eggs, I dont care...Till tehn STFU!
Okay, first off, yes, I have never played eggs...that doesn't mean I don't know how it works nor not haven't seen it in action. Okay, please explain how it gets terrible draws? You don't always start with casty, yes, but just as often, you won't start with shuppet (unless thats your only basic, but then we'd both know it wouldn't work). Again, 1/2 the time, you won't be able to ko the casty, so don't go "oh, t2 its dead" because 1/2 the time, you only do 40 damage. Did you know that t2 I can evo into chu and scramble for the game??? No? Well, I can. I love how you say you're powering up multiple bannettes while I don't have any chus out (since, I have far more outs then you to get multiple ones out). Unless I can do an efficent zapp, I wouldn't. Who says I won't attach an energy root to casty t1, just to piss you off??? Theres alot of plays that makes chu live. Maybe I'm busy testing GOOD decks to have time to play this matchup...because, frankly, I don't care what you say. I'll talk all I want, so stop being all-knowing and grow up.
 
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