#4: Is intelligent design a viable argument for the existence of God?

[Ka$h Money]

...yeah ok... god always existed? (ok I believe time is infinite and the universe always existed) but many believe the theory about the Big Bang, from then it started, how can god always existed? and the bible says the Earth only existed for a 6000 years...?

And how can you believe in god or jesus? I believe jesus existed created a new religion and got killed, but son of god? no, and why would a christian going to heaven and a muslim or jew not? that sounds unfair, doesn't it? And where would I end up?

It may not seem very fair, no, but a muslim or jew will not go to heaven because they are not Christians, and they have diobeyed God. As for you, if you don't repent, you will end up in heck. I would be glad to tell you how to do so, if you wish. It is my prayer that you do.
How can I believe is God? Because I have faith, and, so far, I haven't seen a reason to stop believing.

See is that fair? God is the almighty the merciful. In the Quran (yes I am muslim ) any person can go to heaven as long as they were a good person on Earth. If you prayed or even if you was nice to others God will love you for that.

So christians, jews, atheist can go to heaven as long as your good. This to me is the real God

 

[Professor Palutena]

So christians, jews, atheist can go to heaven as long as your good. This to me is the real God

And god just so happens to be that. He doesn't care what you are, whether or not your muslim, jew, or athiest.

And Magma King, that came entierly from the bible, therefore it is the evidence of my point

 

[~Magma King~]

So christians, jews, atheist can go to heaven as long as your good. This to me is the real God

And god just so happens to be that. He doesn't care what you are, whether or not your muslim, jew, or athiest.

And Magma King, that came entierly from the bible, therefore it is the evidence of my point

But in your previous post you said he did. ;O

And the bible isn't in any way evidence. If I wrote a book about one of my pencils being the creator of the world, would that make it true?

 

[Professor Palutena]

And the bible isn't in any way evidence. If I wrote a book about one of my pencils being the creator of the world, would that make it true?

Depends on your perspective. To some, the bible is hardcore evidence. To others, it's just a book that you won't find in a casual bookstore

 

[Ka$h Money]

Are you agreeing witt me or being sarcastic? I cant tell X_x

 

[~Magma King~]

You haven't really answered my question.

 

[Professor Palutena]

who? Me or Magma King?

If me, I'm disagreeing with you

 

[Ka$h Money]

Why are you disagreeing with me? What have I said wrong, I told the truth and made many understand my perspective? I am confused

 

[Professor Palutena]

It's not that I don't disagree with your points, but your point as a hole. No offense or anything.

It's YOUR perspective, and there's nothing wrong with your perspective, as there is nothing wrong with my perspective. Religion is a controversial topic that no one will ever convince the world to believe in one point

 

[Ka$h Money]

oh so what is your perspective about everyone, only christians will go to heaven?

 

[Pokequaza]

It may not seem very fair, no, but a muslim or jew will not go to heaven because they are not Christians, and they have diobeyed God. As for you, if you don't repent, you will end up in heck. I would be glad to tell you how to do so, if you wish. It is my prayer that you do.
How can I believe is God? Because I have faith, and, so far, I haven't seen a reason to stop believing.

Hmm... that sounds almost like racism... so if i don't repent, i'll end up in heck? But sounds cool, let's do it

This reminds me of a discussion I had in school. xD

I believe in God and support everything he stands for. If you were to read the bible, which IMO is more important to christian than God himself is, you would learn that the cross was only a microscopic part of God. God didn't even die on the cross...

It does appear unstable and full of loopholes, but that alone is what makes it IMO great. Just tell yourself that you believe in it and you'll live forever.

For those that choose not to believe, one day in the blink of an eye, every Christian will leave earth and the 7 years of heck will begin. Grasshoppers will be the size of horses, water will turn into blood, and Satan's commander will go on a 7-year killing spree. If he puts a number on you, you die like that. At the end of the 7 years, God will destroy the earth and move heaven down in its place. It will be a wonderland. Fruit will instantaneously grow back when picked, money will be gone and there will be no sorrow. Doesn't that sound like an awesome place to live? I think it does

In the end, it comes down to whether or not you're willing to sacrifice 30 seconds of your life to tell God you want to follow him. That's all it takes.

First of all, god didn't die... At least people said before...

LOL, why grasshoppers? Kricketot FTW. But it would be nice to have to gigantic grasshoppers in my backyard, i'm gonna ride them; yeeha!.

Water will turn into blood? Why blood? Where does the blood come from? Where does the water go?

Who's satan's commander? I think i can make a deal with him, drink a nice cup of tea with him and it'll be fine.

Ok 7 years later, god will destroy Earth? WTF?!? And i will destroy the moon >:U

And in heaven fruit will grow back instantly? How? And money doesn't make happy

See is that fair? God is the almighty the merciful. In the Quran (yes I am muslim ) any person can go to heaven as long as they were a good person on Earth. If you prayed or even if you was nice to others God will love you for that.

So christians, jews, atheist can go to heaven as long as your good. This to me is the real God

This sounds more fair to me, it seems god hasn't written the same thing in every religious book, has he?

But in your previous post you said he did. ;O

And the bible isn't in any way evidence. If I wrote a book about one of my pencils being the creator of the world, would that make it true?

Yup, i agree with you. The bible is just a book with fictional stories, but it's always fun to read if you want to have a bit of entertainment

''Anyway no offense on anything, it just seems so unrealistic, i don't believe, no offend to the ones who do''

 

[Ka$h Money]

Well pokequaza, You need to have a good heart and be nice to everyone and ultimately God decides your fate but I think my religion is more fair. No offence it is the pure and final word that hasn't been changed by humans. It will never change and is the right way to be God's friend

 

[Pokequaza]

Well pokequaza, You need to have a good heart and be nice to everyone and ultimately God decides your fate but I think my religion is more fair. No offence it is the pure and final word that hasn't been changed by humans. It will never change and is the right way to be God's friend

No offense, but you see, i don't believe in it, so i think like: ''Whatever? It isn't true so why doing difficult? It's just a fictional story made up by man to explain the unknown''

I'm more of the scientifical facts

 

[Ka$h Money]

Yeah I know you don't otherwise you wouldve been backing me up again HS:F lol, yeah you can believe what you want and I don't mind.

I also if you don't know am of scientific facts as well but I am very scepticle lol

 

[apophys]

But that's like Atlantis. XD It's like part of history (How can a myth survive so long and stay intact?), but we have no proof of it's existence except some written words.

Offtopic: Atlantis has been discovered with Google Ocean.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/google/4731313/Google-Ocean-Has-Atlantis-been-found-off-Africa.html

 

[Forum Shark]

This reminds me of a discussion I had in school. xD

I believe in God and support everything he stands for. If you were to read the bible, which IMO is more important to christian than God himself is, you would learn that the cross was only a microscopic part of God. God didn't even die on the cross...

It does appear unstable and full of loopholes, but that alone is what makes it IMO great. Just tell yourself that you believe in it and you'll live forever.

For those that choose not to believe, one day in the blink of an eye, every Christian will leave earth and the 7 years of heck will begin. Grasshoppers will be the size of horses, water will turn into blood, and Satan's commander will go on a 7-year killing spree. If he puts a number on you, you die like that. At the end of the 7 years, God will destroy the earth and move heaven down in its place. It will be a wonderland. Fruit will instantaneously grow back when picked, money will be gone and there will be no sorrow. Doesn't that sound like an awesome place to live? I think it does

In the end, it comes down to whether or not you're willing to sacrifice 30 seconds of your life to tell God you want to follow him. That's all it takes.

Please don't misrepresent Christianity. Jesus did die on the cross, and I think God is more important than the bibe. Without the Bible, God still exists, but withoug God, the Bible would not exist.

Also, "Satan's leader" is not so. It is the antichrist you are speaking of. He is not Satan's incarnate, not will he know he is doing anything wrong. (At least I don't think. He will be acting on his beliefs).

The antichrist's "job" is to bring as many people to heck with him in the last years of the earth, not to kill everyone. I think this goes on for 7 years, and then, in a thousand years after that, God will create the new heaven and the new Earth.

I must thank all who have participated in this thread. You've made me really question what I believe, and now I am more certain of my faith. Thank you.

 

[Noobnerd]

I reject the Bible stating that the Earth is 6000 years old. No where in the Bible does it explicitly say that it is 6000 years old indeed, and this is simply the interpretation of some Christians.

 

[Medaforcer]

I myself am not a man of faith. There's too much in it that just doesn't make sense. There are also too many religions that think they're all right. On top of this too much suffering has happened in the name of religion.

I also don't think people need to be scared into acting good. There's too much to say on this topic. X_x

 

[afstandopleren]

*Sigh* The amount of 'Oh NOEZ, my FAITH is being WRONGED and being proved to be nothing more then a lie because of some logic that is out of my faith's reach!' is starting to get 6000 years old. >_>

 

[Forum Shark]

*Sigh* The amount of 'Oh NOEZ, my FAITH is being WRONGED and being proved to be nothing more then a lie because of some logic that is out of my faith's reach!' is starting to get 6000 years old. >_>

*sigh* The senseless comments that don't add to discussion at all!