Let's Do the 7th Generation

[Scorched Feathers]

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It would still mean you'd be weak to them.

Only if the original matchup was you being weak to them. For all we know, the pokemon could be normal and learn multiple typed moves and the conversions.

No natural advatages or disadvantages, all hits neutral, and it can adjust the scenario to hit supereffectively every time.

Why were sableye and spiritomb originally so annoying? because they didn't have any weaknesses you could exploit. This pokemon would be that.

Fighting type would like to have a word with you.

 

[professorlight]

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Only if the original matchup was you being weak to them. For all we know, the pokemon could be normal and learn multiple typed moves and the conversions.

No natural advatages or disadvantages, all hits neutral, and it can adjust the scenario to hit supereffectively every time.

Why were sableye and spiritomb originally so annoying? because they didn't have any weaknesses you could exploit. This pokemon would be that.

Fighting type would like to have a word with you.

It will have to go through conversion and conversion2 first.

Also, the ability will make it so fighting it's not very effective, and since normal doesn't resist anything, there are no new weaknesses.

That's the point... this pokemon can change the mechanics to it's advantage; and if it has a counter, well, nobody's perfect.

 

[Scorched Feathers]

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Fighting type would like to have a word with you.

It will have to go through conversion and conversion2 first, then,
Also, the ability will make it so fighting it's not very effective. That's the point, this pokemon can change the mechanics to it's advantage; and if it has a counter, well, nobody's perfect.

Eelektross is.

 

[professorlight]

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It will have to go through conversion and conversion2 first, then,
Also, the ability will make it so fighting it's not very effective. That's the point, this pokemon can change the mechanics to it's advantage; and if it has a counter, well, nobody's perfect.

Eelektross is.

Worry seed. Simple beam. Trick + iron ball. Skill swap. Gastro acid.

Want me to continue?

Gravity. Knock down. Soak+thunderbolt.

More?

Now, let's cut this tangent and wait to hear from moose and evilpacman.

 

[Keeper of Night]

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Eelektross is.

Worry seed. Simple beam. Trick + iron ball. Skill swap. Gastro acid.

Want me to continue?

Gravity. Knock down. Soak+thunderbolt.

More?

Now, let's cut this tangent and wait to hear from moose and evilpacman.

...Or just go with the most basic and common counter, Mold Breaker.

 

[lovandra]

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I think I might the gender differences I might do like Meowstic's; maybe some stat variation, but I don't want to make each gender into a different Pokemon altogether.
I think using one overall theme for the line would be fine, and then maybe have something about how the female uses it's voice to lure people, and the male uses it's tail feathers.

That's also cool.

I suggest you to look around internet to any Bird of Paradise like Cendrawasih, to inspire you with the design. This bird also have beautiful tail but different that Peacock. Ho-oh, I believed, inspiring from both Peacock and Cendrawasih too.

A 2009 study examining the mitochondrial DNA of all species to examine the relationships within the family and to its nearest relatives estimated that the family emerged 24 million years ago, older than previous estimates. The study identified five clades within the family, and placed the split between the first clade, which contains the monogamous manucodes and Paradise-crow, and all the other birds-of-paradise, to be 10 million years ago. The second clade includes the parotias and the King of Saxony Bird-of-paradise. The third clade provisionally contains a number of genera, Seleucidis, the Drepanornis sicklebills, Semioptera, Ptiloris and Lophorina, but support values for some of these is inclusions is low. The fourth clade includes the Epimachus sicklebills, Paradigalla and the astrapias. The final clade includes the Cicinnurus and the Paradisaea birds-of-paradise.[3]

So will fit to image of Old Time, right? I just put this info for 'Old Time' bird image. You can use it anyway you want .

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This is Cendrawasih if you don't know yet. I don't know what name they use for it in English. Cendrawasih is their Native Indonesia's name. New Guinea *local area* have other name for them too.

put this cause i want... this is real life pokemon!!!

And do you want any old folklore from South East Asia or Chinese to reference too? I can go to near library and maybe find something interesting that you can't find in internet.

 

[Turtwig]

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I had some new ideas:

Killer Whale-based Pokemon: Water/Dark. The Pokemon would be aggressive; especially compared to its other whale friend, Wailord. I'm seeing great Attack and above-average Speed and maybe HP, but poor defenses and not very good Special Attack (or very good, it just depends on what we decide).

Narwhal counterpart: Water/???. This Pokemon channels its energy into its tusk (and would probably have some unusual HA like Lightningrod) and attacks the foe with one jab. It would probably be a bit more gentler, but maybe have an ability boosting horn moves (obviously it would have an exclusive horn move or something)? I'm imagining great HP, decent Attack and defenses, but average speed and not enough special attack to do anything.

Bottom-Feeder fish Pokemon: Water/Poison. This Pokemon species is generally gentle and does not attack often, however it does so by sucking the life out of its prey. Due to its preference in algae, these Pokemon would rather eat on the seafloor rather than compete with food on top. (I'm thinking of moves like Leech Life, Venom Drench, Acid Spray). It would have pretty mediocre stats aside from maybe defenses.

Just a few thoughts; plus, there are always a lot of water-types in the Pokedex. My apologies if these ideas have already been put into place, but I thought that I would just put them out there. Thoughts?

 

[Spartan Sceptile]

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I had some new ideas:

Killer Whale-based Pokemon: Water/Dark. The Pokemon would be aggressive; especially compared to its other whale friend, Wailord. I'm seeing great Attack and above-average Speed and maybe HP, but poor defenses and not very good Special Attack (or very good, it just depends on what we decide).

Narwhal counterpart: Water/???. This Pokemon channels its energy into its tusk (and would probably have some unusual HA like Lightningrod) and attacks the foe with one jab. It would probably be a bit more gentler, but maybe have an ability boosting horn moves (obviously it would have an exclusive horn move or something)? I'm imagining great HP, decent Attack and defenses, but average speed and not enough special attack to do anything.

Bottom-Feeder fish Pokemon: Water/Poison. This Pokemon species is generally gentle and does not attack often, however it does so by sucking the life out of its prey. Due to its preference in algae, these Pokemon would rather eat on the seafloor rather than compete with food on top. (I'm thinking of moves like Leech Life, Venom Drench, Acid Spray). It would have pretty mediocre stats aside from maybe defenses.

Just a few thoughts; plus, there are always a lot of water-types in the Pokedex. My apologies if these ideas have already been put into place, but I thought that I would just put them out there. Thoughts?

Those idea's seem awesome, especially the Killer whale. I think it would be cool if the Narwhal was maybe Water/Steel or Water/Rock.

 

[professorlight]

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The bottom feeder fish is not bad, but the typing water/dark should be for...

A dolphin pokemon.

Strange, right? but look it up. Dolphins are assholes. Class A, pure, unadulterated assholes. They kill baby seals just for fun, and their own babies too. And they hunt sharks. F***** sharks.

What brings me to their counterpart, a shark. Sharks are killing machines, yes, but they don't eat as many humans as we think they do, and they are trying to survive, unlike the dolphins.

I also remember now an idea I had for a sailfish pokemon... goomy probably remembers; it was good.

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Goomy and lovandra, if you want to team up to make the peacock/s, go ahead.

 

[Turtwig]

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I'm confused. I thought that the water starter was going to be some dolphin Pokemon...is there even a water starter established yet?

Actually, we could make the dolphin a parallel exclusive to the killer whale. I always thought the Dolphin Pokemon should be water/psychic since they are conventionally thought of as kind; I don't think Game Freak would make evil dolphins since the stereotypical view of them are, in fact, gentle. I am aware that dolphins are not innocent creatures.

A sailfish could be cool as well. It could replace my narwhal idea and could actually learn sword moves and stuff as well.

 

[Keeper of Night]

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I thought there was a platypus being worked on as the water starter?
Oh, is anyone willing to work with me to design the elephant? I'm anxious I get the looks together so I can create some sort of move pool.

 

[Turtwig]

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I don't really know..I'm somewhat confused because I've heard both suggestions earlier in the thread. Is there any possible way that we could put all suggested/work-in-progress Pokemon in the OP so that we can all have quick and easy access?

 

[lovandra]

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Oh, is anyone willing to work with me to design the elephant?

I can help with design of elephant. Want make it become kinda like ganesha? *fully evolved*?

U know the story of first Elephant in Buddist-Indian *or Hindunist* story. About Elephant that out from tree.??? *or becoming tree? I forget*, I'll check it in the library today.

 

[professorlight]

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I'm confused. I thought that the water starter was going to be some dolphin Pokemon...is there even a water starter established yet?

Actually, we could make the dolphin a parallel exclusive to the killer whale. I always thought the Dolphin Pokemon should be water/psychic since they are conventionally thought of as kind; I don't think Game Freak would make evil dolphins since the stereotypical view of them are, in fact, gentle. I am aware that dolphins are not innocent creatures.

A sailfish could be cool as well. It could replace my narwhal idea and could actually learn sword moves and stuff as well.

The platypus is indeed our working water starter. The dolphin card is played always during any discussion of fakemon, and it's in part the reason for why I want, in the case we want to make a dolphin, it to be dark type. As I said, they're assholes, and people ignore that.

GF always uses obscure data and surprising twists on animals, for example, sharpedo's rough skin must be based on the shape of shark scales, similar as teeth.

I can help you with the elephant, keeper, assuming we're okay with the squirrel, at least for now.

I was thinking to make a list of who is working on what, so we could keep track of things. I'll get what I had on the sailfish and make the list now.

 

[Keeper of Night]

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I'd say that the squirrel isn't finished... But maybe well get a better feel for what we want to so with it by the time a few others are near completion.

 

[Turtwig]

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Spoiler: Dolphin Opinions

Fair enough, but if you rub your skin with a shark in the wrong way, it will hurt (which relates to why Pokemon get hurt upon contact). That's why Rough Skin makes sense. I understand why the dark-type dolphin would work, but, I don't know, it just doesn't seem....fitting. Many animals have a dark side and kill, but that doesn't make them an equivalent to Dark-type Pokemon. Take a look at Swellow's Pokedex entries (especially in RSE). Despite it's Normal/Flying typing, Swellow is very aggressive towards its prey.

If anything, maybe the dolphin Pokemon (if we have one) should just be plain water-type. That seems like the easiest route and we need some mono-type Pokemon in the Pokedex anyway. Despite what I think, a dolphin could work in that way. That's just my opinion on its typing.

On another topic, I'm eager to start my killer whale and bottom feeder projects, but I need a "yes" or "no" on making them.

 

[professorlight]

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Okay, then the squirrel is in standby so we can tune it more with the other starters.

But the cape stays.

This is the current list:

Turtwig - ghost clock
Blossombranch -
Shiny goodra -
Eron -
Keeper of Night - fire + elephant + gems + india + maharaha(fire starter)
evilpacman - matchup inverter pokemon
Wandering Wolf -
Professorlight - grass + squirrel + elf + queen(grass starter)
His goominess - peacock
Blui -
Scorched feathers - regional cat
Pineapple X -
Haunted water - ghost + grandfather clock
Professor palutena - water + platypus + poseidon + king(water starter)
Akwila - regional bug
Lovandra - peacock
Muhfugginmoose - matchup inverter pokemon
Spartansceptile -

Ideas without designer:
-water spider
-CRAP. THE LEGENDARIES! WHO IS MAKING THE LEGENADARIES? OH, DEAR, THIS IS A DISASTER.

Blue are those we've seen pictures of.
Orange are unconfirmed.
Green are those that are confirmed, but no pictures.
strikethrough are those who haven't showed up to do anything but havent said they quit yet.
Should I delete them?

Everyone PM me what are you actually working on (or plan to work on) and with whom (if that's the case). I need to confirm that we are actually making some progress instead of making another "what cool pokemon I want for gen 7" thread.


And here's the sailfish, turtwig:

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velish (the one in the photo was from mexico, so: from the spanish vela=sail + velocity + fish. don't look at me like that, just took me two seconds)
water/steel

Hp: 75
Atk: 105
Def: 80
Sp. Atk: 40
Sp. Def: 80
Spd: 120

swift swim - lightweight - speed boost (DW)

scratch
sharpen
water gun
metal claw
aqua jet
tailwind
slash
brine
rain dance
swords dance
iron head
aqua tail - iron tail
double edge / horn drill
FIRST DRAFT
[img width= 400 height=200]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zYw6GhFI3Wg/UcYcbhMGd8I/AAAAAAAAAxk/VkYg270Gifw/s862/velish.png[/img]
SECOND DRAFT

If you want to do the killer whale and the bottom feeder, go ahead... want me to take over the clock so you don't get too much in your hands?

 

[evilpacman]

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I was thinking about making an aphid/cow Pokemon and having an ant/farmer Pokemon to be it's counterpart. I also have a sketch for a mosquito Pokemon, both the basic and evolution. In addition, I have a few more ideas for insects that I'd like to share. This is the mosquito...

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large picture.
The idea here is that the female is engorged with blood, making its stomach look full. The male can be similar, but without the piercing/sucking mouthpart and fat abdomen. It is very unusual for Bug Pokemon because it cares for it's young after they hatch from their egg. The Maternal Pokemon specializes in a ton of draining moves and even has a new move called "???", a Bug type move, that inflicts damage and heals a teammate or party member equal to half of the damage done to the opponent. The Basic is a larval Pokemon that appears to wear a bib and is completely dependent on the mother. I am putting it out here for criticism and as a suggestion for one of the early regional Bug Pokemon. I apologize for the bad quality of the picture.

 

[Turtwig]

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Looks good, though shouldn't Sacred Sword be on there? Maybe Night Slash as an egg move or something. Those seem to fit the profile for it. Also, Speed Boost sounds a little overkill. Maybe give it something like Weak Armor that at least makes it easier to revenge kill and still be able to get boosts in speed. Even though we're not focusing on the competitive metagame, that would be a little overwhelming.

 

[MuhFugginMoose]

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Alright, so, I've been thinking of a 'mon that would work more for the competitive side. A two stage (basic + Evolution) Poke with an ability called Polarity, which, inverts its type match ups, meaning attacks aimed at him (can be stopped by Mold Breaker). It's going to be a Narwhal+MuskOx who will use it's tusks to change the magnetic force around it to do so.
I'd like it to be a typically bad typing, however, since it pretty much has to be Ice type, since its resistances will become weaknesses, that means as mono ice it'd have one weakness to itself, so, maybe we could all come to some consensus (if you all think this is a good idea) on what the secondary typing may be.

No.

The ability's effect seems interesting, though, so if you find something that can have it and it makes sense, it would make for a very interesting gimmick pokemon, like kecleon, castform, etc. And it's not a new mechanic, either.
It could be both a specific ability for your pokemon and a new move room move.
You draw very well, but your designs are all over the place, you need to focus in a logical progession, not in what the pokemon should have, but what in the pokemon should be.
For this particular starting point, however, you might be better off not including animals, like they did with castform.


I know you won't understand why I said no to your idea, and it's a valid concern, so let me show you something:

The only thing I meant competitive about this is the ability. Just the fact it can play mind games on the opponent Competitive or not was more so what I was going for. I wasn't trying to make the Pokemon specifically competitive. I meant that's where I drew the idea up. As far as the ice typing, it only made sense because I thought of it as North/South Pole (to make it simple) where Narwhals and MuskOx live. It was just an idea I threw out there to see what People thought of. Honestly, when I put my idea on paper, it didn't look anything like what I wanted it to. So, the whole Narwhal+MuskOx idea is very subject to change. I wasn't planning on making a Pokemon specifially oriented for Competitive play, it was just the ability I had in mind.
Anyways, with that feed back, I'm still wondering if anyone is willing to continue to run with this idea. I'm alright with scrapping it if not.

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Fighting type would like to have a word with you.

It will have to go through conversion and conversion2 first.

Also, the ability will make it so fighting it's not very effective, and since normal doesn't resist anything, there are no new weaknesses.

That's the point... this pokemon can change the mechanics to it's advantage; and if it has a counter, well, nobody's perfect.

Piggy Backing off it having Conversion, maybe it can be more of a virus or something. Now that I've looked deeper into it, I'm thinking of scrapping it being a Narwhal. It's more closely related to electricity.