Finished Mafia XLVII: The New Era (Fairy Tail)

[Mariano11887]

Oh, and by the way... Is Morda still alive? I completely forgot about him and it seems Lorde too, she didn't include him in her reads.

 

[GM DracLord]

It's the holidays, the inactive clause now in general needs to be a lot looser right now.

It is looser but it doesn't meant I stop updating inactivity list.
My formula is based on in game day rather than the whole Game

 

[GM DracLord]

Day 02 - P0

The following Vote Count is true up to Post #301

It takes a majority of 5 to lynch.
In the event of the majority vote isn't achieved, the person with the highest vote will be lynch.
In the unlikely event of a tie, an RNG will be use to decide the lynch candidate.

Vote Count - Players
1 - TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK
0 - quakingpunch73
1 - Lord o da rings

Spoiler: Vote Summary

This vote summary only reflect the Vote/Unvote posted in the thread.
bbninjas #271 - TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK (Unvoted - #297)
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK #281 - quakingpunch73 (Unvoted - #288)
Lord o da rings #282 - TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK #288 - The Last Shaymin
bbninjas #297 - Lord o da rings

> The Following Players need to increase their activity

> The Following Players are close to be on the above list
- @mordacazir (2/5). @The Last Shaymin (1/5)

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Day 02 ends at > 30th December 2017 (0300 PM) [GMT+8]

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[Nick Tornell]

Well if you haven't noticed, my vote is the non-existent one due to my active ability so there's that.

What sketchy actions of TLS's are you referring to?

In response, avoiding questions and now completely neglecting the game for a non related matter, and voting based on votes for him in defense.

"true thoughts"? Were your other thoughts/vote not "true"?

Not that they weren't my true thoughts before
I just didn't have time to read up to that point yet.

 

[quakingpunch73]

Well if you haven't noticed, my vote is the non-existent one due to my active ability so there's that.

In response, avoiding questions and now completely neglecting the game for a non related matter, and voting based on votes for him in defense.

Not that they weren't my true thoughts before
I just didn't have time to read up to that point yet.

Why did you claim that without pressure?

 

[mordacazir]

Definitely didn’t forgot about this

Guys (besides bbninjas who already expressed himself), I'd like to know your opinion about Nick and TLS. Do you think they are scummy? If yes, who do you prefer to vote? If not, please tell us who is scum for you.
I want to hear you before putting my vote.

Nick and TLS are both not that scummy in my opinion, nick has improved simcd last game and seems fairly townie to me. Except that his wording is sometimes weird and scummy like. TLS might be coached especially of that genuine post. It seems like he was ordered to act really newbie and than make such a post. (This coaching would have been done by either NP or bb(maybe lorde but low chance)).

I'm back
##VOTE: quakingpunch73 for wariness concerning me

What wariness?

Not at all. After analysis I have come up with my true thoughts:
##unvote:quakingpunch73
##vote:TheLastShaymin
For refusing to answer the same question twice, inactivity with no reason as of yet, and taking my word on Pinapl. The mistake there is that nobody should ever take my word on a player. To answer BB, I posted the fluff because it was what was on my mind and the time. Sorry for the late response.

So why should we take your word on TLS. This is one of those weird wordings I was talking about.

Why did you claim that without pressure?

Was also thinking that. But quaking you just pop in and say that without answering any of the questions directed at you?

Oh, and by the way... Is Morda still alive? I completely forgot about him and it seems Lorde too, she didn't include him in her reads.

Im still alive. @Lord o da rings if you could include me in your reads that would be cool.

 

[Mariano11887]

Well if you haven't noticed, my vote is the non-existent one due to my active ability so there's that.

Can you please explain this? I am analyzing what's happening with the votes. On Day 1, 2 people voted scattered mind but his name never appeared in the vote count. Now you are voting TLS and his name doesn't appear in the last vote count. Can you tell us what does your active ability do?

My goal is to find any pattern that can lead us to some person "protecting" others from the votes. It may not necessarily need to be scummy, maybe is some townie protecting another person he thinks is Town. An example is Day 1 with scattered, a confirmed Town member, being immune to votes.
Every data we can gather is valuable.

 

[quakingpunch73]

Was also thinking that. But quaking you just pop in and say that without answering any of the questions directed at you?

I wasn't aware I had any questions to answer. Direct me towards them, and I will gladly answer them.

 

[GM DracLord]

Day 02 - P06

The following Vote Count is true up to Post #308

It takes a majority of 5 to lynch.
In the event of the majority vote isn't achieved, the person with the highest vote will be lynch.
In the unlikely event of a tie, an RNG will be use to decide the lynch candidate.

Vote Count - Players
1 - TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK
0 - quakingpunch73
1 - Lord o da rings

Spoiler: Vote Summary

This vote summary only reflect the Vote/Unvote posted in the thread.
bbninjas #271 - TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK (Unvoted - #297)
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK #281 - quakingpunch73 (Unvoted - #288)
Lord o da rings #282 - TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK #288 - The Last Shaymin
bbninjas #297 - Lord o da rings

> The Following Players need to increase their activity (Lvl 1)

> The Following Players are close to be on the above list (Lvl 2)

> The Following Players in marginally safe from the above list (Lvl 3)
- @mordacazir (3/6). @The Last Shaymin (1/6), @Lord o da rings (2/6), @TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK (2/6)

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[Lorde]

I agree with your reads beside NP, who I also feel has been flying under the radar, although not to the same extent as Quaking.

The main reason I'm not putting NP down as scummy is because I know he's exhausting himself in Hydra Mafia on MU. He's been doing 90% of the work for the both of us sorry 'bout that NP, gonna get on it. Quaking's different because I don't know what he's been up to in that time.

In response, avoiding questions and now completely neglecting the game for a non related matter, and voting based on votes for him in defense.

... I'd give TLS a pass because it's the holidays and we're all busy celebrating and doing other things. You mind telling us where he's being dodgy though? I'd like to see those points.

Im still alive. @Lord o da rings if you could include me in your reads that would be cool.

Just in the future guys, if you're not on my reads lists you're probably too inactive to read, or so inactive I just forgot about you in general. This is why you need to be active when you can be.

 

[Nick Tornell]

Can you please explain this?

I meant passive, sorry. It means that my vote weight is 0 so I basically get no say in the voting stage.

You mind telling us where he's being dodgy though?

I cant find the questions right now ill post that next time im on when i find it or if someone can find them for me that would be great.

So why should we take your word on TLS.

As I said before in this post, I have no vote weight meaning I need people who trust me to follow my non-existent voting lead concerning the other players in the game.

What wariness?

At first, quakings post concerning me seemed wary about me but now that i look back at it I see that he was just trying to make conversation in the thread.

Why did you claim that without pressure?

Well, it just seemed obvious for other players that the votes were messed up so I told you all why.
Also, my phone has some sort of parental control setting on it so I'm gonna be on V/LA again until the 3rd.

 

[NinjaPenguin]

Can't find the quote, but whoever mentioned vig/indie spec being useless is wrong. The fact that Nick had such confidence in it being an indie may point to him being the indie himself. Best example I can find of this is Rainy in Superheroes.

Major townie points to Mariano for getting discussion moving by pressuring people to post their thoughts, and some FoS at those who should have read Mariano's original post (e.g. quaking, lorde, NP) and posted something.

What should I have responded to? I'm confused.

"true thoughts"? Were your other thoughts/vote not "true"?


Regarding TLS, do you remember when you were playing your first mafia game? Did you, by any chance, act similarly to TLS? (Trying to survive, or being too trusting, or sometimes ignoring things because you are confused/don't really know what to say?)
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This is a very interesting response, because Aqua admits that he posted some fluff and he did it because he didn't really know what to say. It's very honest, as NP was saying.

Remember, BB, that Nick was scum his first game. Him thinking that TLS is acting similar to himself may be more indicative of being scum to him.

This is also a very genuine post:
- TLS observes that his previous attempts to scumhunt (voting people who vote him) doesn't work
--- TLS probably thought this was sketchy since he knows that he's town (assuming he actually is town), and voting town is scummy, right? In fact, it would have be odd if TLS is scum and have this reason, because TLS would have only given it if he had remembered that everyone else doesn't know his alignment, yet it is the opposite that is is implied through his posts.
- TLS wants to improve and asks in thread for help. Why didn't he ask in the scumchat if he was scum?
- TLS shows he is trying to participate by commenting on the dead mafia member, as TLS has likely concluded that his own team wouldn't have killed him (despite the scum typically doing the killing), and would like an explanation to fill the knowledge gap.

So, I'm reading TLS as town.

All of those ideas could be seen a completely different and scummy way.

TLS might be coached especially of that genuine post. It seems like he was ordered to act really newbie and than make such a post. (This coaching would have been done by either NP or bb(maybe lorde but low chance)).

IDK why everyone has this strange idea of coaching, but that's not how coaching works. Nobody ever gets ordered to act newbie, because it will never help them down the line. The general order for newbies is "act like you would if you were town" and that's it.

 

[Lorde]

I cant find the questions right now ill post that next time im on when i find it or if someone can find them for me that would be great.

You did make the case, right?

Well, it just seemed obvious for other players that the votes were messed up so I told you all why.

No one had said anything about the votes...

Also, my phone has some sort of parental control setting on it so I'm gonna be on V/LA again until the 3rd.

That's a 5 day V/LA, holy crap.

Can't find the quote, but whoever mentioned vig/indie spec being useless is wrong. The fact that Nick had such confidence in it being an indie may point to him being the indie himself. Best example I can find of this is Rainy in Superheroes.

I absolutely hate this theory. Hate it. Never works, besides that one occurrence almost a year ago, I've never seen this work elsewhere.

What should I have responded to? I'm confused.

This.

 

[Mariano11887]

I meant passive, sorry. It means that my vote weight is 0 so I basically get no say in the voting stage.

I checked your votation through the game and it seems you are right. Day 1 you voted bbninjas and it never appeared in the vote count. The same is happening now with your vote to TLS. You may be saying the truth.
A character with such an awful passive ability needs to be balanced in some way. You must have some other strong ability. I remember TLS saying someone "stole" his vote, was it you?

 

[quakingpunch73]

Alright, my phone is being annoying right now and I can't quote posts. Lorde, last game I was indie and I mentioned there possibly being an indie early on, which could give NP's theory a little credibility. Mariano, why are you rolefishing Nick, especially since he previously mentioned he won't be on for the rest of the day?

 

[Mariano11887]

Mariano, why are you rolefishing Nick, especially since he previously mentioned he won't be on for the rest of the day?

It wasn't my intention to rolefish Nick. I'm just trying to figure out what's happening with the vote weights. I'm doing a deep analysis right now and I'm discovering some inconsistencies, I mean, apparently someone has the power to move a vote from a person to another. That happened to you on Day 1, someone moved a vote from scattered to you. If someone wants you to be lynched and we discover who is, we can come up to a useful conclusion.
Let me finish my analysis and I will share my results.

 

[Nick Tornell]

I remember TLS saying someone "stole" his vote, was it you?

I can still be on for a few hrs, no I have nothing to do with vote stealing as my character is a reporter and my active ability states as follows, "Once per night you may PM me a message of 50 alphanumerical characters, that message will be posted on the next update."

 

[quakingpunch73]

I can still be on for a few hrs, no I have nothing to do with vote stealing as my character is a reporter and my active ability states as follows, "Once per night you may PM me a message of 50 alphanumerical characters, that message will be posted on the next update."

So, why haven't you used it? I don't recall seeing any messages of the sort in an update. The only thing I remember seeing was the strange message TLS posted a while back, but that wasn't in an update.

 

[Nick Tornell]

It wasn't my intention to rolefish Nick. I'm just trying to figure out what's happening with the vote weights. I'm doing a deep analysis right now and I'm discovering some inconsistencies, I mean, apparently someone has the power to move a vote from a person to another. That happened to you on Day 1, someone moved a vote from scattered to you. If someone wants you to be lynched and we discover who is, we can come up to a useful conclusion.
Let me finish my analysis and I will share my results.

Yes, do that. I think we would all like to know what is going on. I believe that the prime suspect there is someone who voted quaking last in game day.

 

[Nick Tornell]

So, why haven't you used it? I don't recall seeing any messages of the sort in an update. The only thing I remember seeing was the strange message TLS posted a while back, but that wasn't in an update.

Well, I was waiting to see how the first night played through so I could consider the damage dealt to this community and post this upcoming in game night. That is what I believed would be best