XY No Professor in X and Y? and the Friend Group

Raptor9229 said:
Theviking06 said:
I was wondering why does he need to be a child genius? From what I have seen in Pokemon you dont need to be overly intelligent to be a Professor, mainly just someone with an almost borderline obsession about pokemon and getting children to fill out a pokedex.

The professors are probably smarter than said children if you think about it but a child-genius for a professor would mix things up a bit, ya know like how the main games have not had a female professor before the fifth generation.

I did notice how they seem to want to greatly mix things up with the newer generations. They want to offer fresh experience that is similar, yet different to past generations.
 
I certainly think having a professor around the same ages as the protagonist would be interesting, perhaps even female, to sort of continue with the trend that I hope Juniper started.
 
I'd really hate it if there were to be a child professor. It was never too clear what exactly is that makes a professor what they are, but a child your age to be a profesor (especially a main professor) would be wrong, I think. My opinion, of course, but I really hope they don't go that way and trevor is just an overeager kid with pokedexes to share.
 
Bolt the Cat said:
I don't think Trevor is a professor, if he was, he probably wouldn't be on an adventure.
No one said he was. It was inferred that he could later BECOME the professor, as he seems very knowledgeable, and not only gives you and your other friends the Pokedex, but checks and compares yours with his as your journey progresses.
 
Alix Rooker said:
No one said he was. It was inferred that he could later BECOME the professor, as he seems very knowledgeable, and not only gives you and your other friends the Pokedex, but checks and compares yours with his as your journey progresses.

That would likely take years of study, unless he's already a professor's assistant, it probably won't happen anytime soon.
 
There are some crazy smart kids out there guys.

Michael Kearney (who had ADHD):
"...as he would graduate from high school at six. That same year, Kearney enrolled at the Santa Rosa Junior College, completing an Associate’s in geology at age 8 and going on to finish his Bachelor’s degree by age 10, making him the world’s youngest university graduate. Kearney went on to get his Master’s in biochemistry..."
"Michael Kevin Kearney is a former child prodigy known for setting several world records and teaching college at the age of 17."

Kim Ung-Yong:
"His world-record IQ of 210 makes him a genius nearly twice over. By age 3 (that’s not a typo) he was a physics student at university. NASA brought him from Korea to do research for them at age 8. He worked there for 10 years while earning a PhD in physics at the age of 16."

These are two exceptional examples, but being a Pokemon prof seems to require a lot less. So it's not so
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. Not that I'm saying Pokemon will definitely go with it. Though I don't think it's odd for a prof to be on an adventure. I'm sure Oak did tons of field work before getting older.

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(captioned "Everyone will begin their adventures with one Pokémon of their choosing.")
So most likely no to the theory mentioned a few pages back: "2 of the characters may not even get Pokémon right away"
"could see Trevor and Tierno not having their own Pokemon at first"

Also professorlight, you said one of them could be the professor's kid earlier, which I thought was a pretty cool concept.
 
I could see Trevor being the professor's kid. His environment would allow him to aspire to professors. He would also have easy access to Pokedexs and potentially starters (+2).
 
Yep, that's what made more sense to me, that one of your friends is the prof's kid.
It's more than likely that in order to be a professor one would have to go on an adventure and get field experience, and later go to college to get the proper education, but the child genius thing, albeit possible, is misguided. Think about, for example, that kid teaching college at 17 years; many people wouldn't like to have a teacher many years younger than themselves, genius or not, and would make their lives a living hell, especially if they are not very experienced with people, which is bound to happen if from birth to now you only dedicated yourself to study; and adolescence is already pretty crappy for all of us, imagine how it would be like for a kid having to teach older people who hate them.
Intelligence is all fine and good, even if it's just a result of genetic lottery, but maturity and balance is important, too.
 
Salamencetrainer34 said:
I know this sounds really crazy, but.. what if they didn't reveal the professor yet and we are thinking too deep?

Whoa! Yes, you're probably right, but ridiculous spectating is half the fun.
 
professorlight said:
It's more than likely that in order to be a professor one would have to go on an adventure and get field experience, and later go to college to get the proper education, but the child genius thing, albeit possible, is misguided. Think about, for example, that kid teaching college at 17 years; many people wouldn't like to have a teacher many years younger than themselves, genius or not, and would make their lives a living hell, especially if they are not very experienced with people, which is bound to happen if from birth to now you only dedicated yourself to study; and adolescence is already pretty crappy for all of us, imagine how it would be like for a kid having to teach older people who hate them.
Intelligence is all fine and good, even if it's just a result of genetic lottery, but maturity and balance is important, too.

Do you have anything, anything, that can back up all of what you just said?
 
Salamencetrainer34 said:
I know this sounds really crazy, but.. what if they didn't reveal the professor yet and we are thinking too deep?

It's possible, but the fact that Trevor is the one to give you the Pokedex does imply that the Professor may not play that big a role in the early game.
 
Lex said:
professorlight said:
It's more than likely that in order to be a professor one would have to go on an adventure and get field experience, and later go to college to get the proper education, but the child genius thing, albeit possible, is misguided. Think about, for example, that kid teaching college at 17 years; many people wouldn't like to have a teacher many years younger than themselves, genius or not, and would make their lives a living hell, especially if they are not very experienced with people, which is bound to happen if from birth to now you only dedicated yourself to study; and adolescence is already pretty crappy for all of us, imagine how it would be like for a kid having to teach older people who hate them.
Intelligence is all fine and good, even if it's just a result of genetic lottery, but maturity and balance is important, too.

Do you have anything, anything, that can back up all of what you just said?

Not really, just an educated guess, a lifetime with ADHD, people skills issues, and a slighly higher intelligence (not a genius, though) than my peers and an unrelated experience with teenagers and teachers (including myself) with little people skills. If you have anything to prove me wrong, I'd love to hear it, might give me a better opinion of teenagers.
 
professorlight said:
Lex said:
Do you have anything, anything, that can back up all of what you just said?

Not really, just an educated guess, a lifetime with ADHD, people skills issues, and a slighly higher intelligence (not a genius, though) than my peers and an unrelated experience with teenagers and teachers (including myself) with little people skills. If you have anything to prove me wrong, I'd love to hear it, might give me a better opinion of teenagers.

I see. As far as the Pokemon world goes (I did a little research): "Bill is stated to be a genius, graduating from college at an early age and being the creator of several inventions such as the Pokémon Storage System and the Vs. Seeker."
As far as the real world goes? I'll PM you.
 
Bolt the Cat said:
Alix Rooker said:
No one said he was. It was inferred that he could later BECOME the professor, as he seems very knowledgeable, and not only gives you and your other friends the Pokedex, but checks and compares yours with his as your journey progresses.

That would likely take years of study, unless he's already a professor's assistant, it probably won't happen anytime soon.
This isn't even my idea. I don't think he's the professor either, I was just kind of summarizing what others were saying.

My thoughts on the matter are that just because a friend of yours gives you the Pokedex doesn't mean that he/she is the professor. Granted, this is the first main series game where someone other than the actual Professor, or even a professors assistant gave you the Pokedex.

I was thinking that someone else gave you the Pokedex in BW2, such as Bianca, because I never played the games to begin with, but after looking around for at least 20 minutes, I couldn't find anything.
 
professorlight said:
Think about, for example, that kid teaching college at 17 years; many people wouldn't like to have a teacher many years younger than themselves, genius or not, and would make their lives a living hell

Speaking as a college student myself, I wouldn't care if a teacher was younger than me, and I don't know anyone who would. In fact, there are several students that are older than the professors, and I've never heard a single word of complaint.

I like the child professor idea but it's.... Unlikely, to say the least. I'm willing to bet there's a similar degree or license system to real-world doctorates, meaning it'd be basically impossible to be an accredited professor before your 20s or so because of the required years of study.
 
Frezgle said:
professorlight said:
Think about, for example, that kid teaching college at 17 years; many people wouldn't like to have a teacher many years younger than themselves, genius or not, and would make their lives a living hell

wat
Speaking as a college student myself, I wouldn't care if a teacher was younger than me, and I don't know anyone who would. In fact, there are several students that are older than the professors, and I've never heard a single word of complaint.

I like the child professor idea but it's.... Unlikely, to say the least. I'm willing to bet there's a similar degree or license system to real-world doctorates, meaning it'd be basically impossible to be an accredited professor before your 20s or so because of the required years of study.
It seems to me tho that most of the studying would be either in the field, or because most Pokemon professors have years of experience due to having been on a journey, they wouldn't require much to be a Pokemon Professor, even if the minimum age was 18.

Hell, Hilbert, Hilda, Nate, Rosa, Calem and Serena are all about 16, so they would only require to be on their journey for a minimum of two years. By the time of BW2, it could even be that Hilbert and Hilda are already studying to be Pokemon Professors, or moved on to another region and became the new professor.

How interesting would that be if the new professor of this generation was Hilbert or Hilda?
They would be around the age of 19 by this time, anyways. I think it would be something very interesting, but highly unlikely, to see.

[EDIT:] And if you recall, Bianca was the same age as Hilbert and Hilda. And she is already an Assistant Professors to Professor Juniper.
If they were to do a revisit to Unova, she could even be the new Pokemon Professor, if Juniper wanted to retire, or do other things. Granted, Juniper is only around the age of 30, maybe a few years older, but I digress.
 
Frezgle said:
professorlight said:
Think about, for example, that kid teaching college at 17 years; many people wouldn't like to have a teacher many years younger than themselves, genius or not, and would make their lives a living hell

wat
Speaking as a college student myself, I wouldn't care if a teacher was younger than me, and I don't know anyone who would. In fact, there are several students that are older than the professors, and I've never heard a single word of complaint.

I like the child professor idea but it's.... Unlikely, to say the least. I'm willing to bet there's a similar degree or license system to real-world doctorates, meaning it'd be basically impossible to be an accredited professor before your 20s or so because of the required years of study.

As far as the young teacher thing, you are talking about personal experience, and so was I (perhaps using some hyperbole, though), so, let's move on.
I don't dispute the fact that pokemon professors or assistants can be young (there is a reason why this says professorlight on the side, after all). I always interpreted it as:
adventure + training = lab assistant (bianca) + superior education + field work/thesis = pokemon professor (fennel) + experience = famous pokemon professor (oak, elm, birch, juniper, etc)
But that's the way I see it, what I mean is that no one will come tomorrow and offer a lab to ash, for example (opposite of bianca, who chose to help juniper halfway through B/W), It takes more than just an adventure to be a a full fledged prof. And that's it, nothing else.
 
Yes, but you also have to take into account the specific field of study that the Professor specializes in.
For example, I'm sure it took longer for Birch to become a professor than for Juniper to become one, simply based on the areas that they study on.
 
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