The Storms ~ This format was ours!

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CyndaquilMaster said:
I can set up Vileplume and Gengar easily. It may be overhyped, as it's hard to live up to the huge expectations placed on the card.
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Could you explain how you setup(generally speaking).

Oddish first turn, etc etc.

Thanks :)
 
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Spiritomb active. Collector, Gastly, Oddish, Nidoran/Spiritomb. Then evolve with Tomb using Darkness Grace.
 
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CyndaquilMaster said:
Spiritomb active. Collector, Gastly, Oddish, Nidoran/Spiritomb. Then evolve with Tomb using Darkness Grace.
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so a T2 setup?
 
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Tylertyphlosion said:
so a T2 setup?
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T3-T4. Unless you have a Gengar in your hand after evolving Gastly into Haunter (or Oddish into Gloom with a Vileplume in your hand), then you'll have to spend another turn evolving that Pokemon with Darkness Grace.
 
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I think Tomb is better and that the Plume is just overkill.
I like just SpeedGar this year, it is so consistent.
Also tonight i'll be testing my deck@ league vs LuxChomp and Jumpluff and maybe Kingdra.
 
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Seeing what your deck is, you'll have an even matchup against Luxchomp and an advantage against Jumpluff and Kingdra.
 
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i think i have an advantage over typical LuxChomps if we both get setup, they can't respond to my Ape 4 X unless they play Quagsire GL/Empoloen FB/Frost Rotom. Also i play the 3 main techs for mirror, Dragonite FB, Promocroak and Ambipom G.
Jumpluff i am a bit worried about for whatever reason but kingdra once i get an Ape 4 i pretty much win as long as i KO the Kingdra LAs.
 
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I think that jumpluff could be potentially a threat, especially since you only play one spray.. If you find that jumpluff is gaining popularity I would just find room for more spray.
 
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hey, i've been working on a legend deck. can you guys check it out? obvious, non-meta is my thing, but even so, I'm not too aware regarding the whole game in general.

http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=85153
 
RE: The Storms ~ This format is ours! Getting ready for Battle Roads!

I made a suggestion, if you don't look there, and here first.
 
RE: The Storms ~ This format is ours! Getting ready for Battle Roads!

okay so after some testing-
Jumpluff was SLIGHTLY in my favor, if i got out a quick ape 4 x w/ small bench i took a 2-3 prize lead and didn't look back, if i got setup slowly i lost. Again no call energy hurts me a lot, but i'm playing PONT over call(2 pont+1 extra fire energy). Against kingdra not to problamatic, mirror didn't get to test.
Also i'm thinking of trying cursegar w/ lines like this
3-2-2-1-1 Gengar LV.X(2 curse, 1 SF, might switch)
3 Spiritomb(PA)
2-1-2 Vileplume
2-1 Uxie LV.X
1 Azelf
1 Crobat G
1-1 Luxray GL LV.X

No testing at all, but it could work when i get all the cards(no plume line, also what oddish/gloom should i use?) have everything else.
 
RE: The Storms ~ This format is ours! Getting ready for Battle Roads!

I like the oddish/gloom from LA, the grass ones. The gloom has 1 retreat, and they both have potentially stalling attacks.
 
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I'd go with a 2-2-2 Vileplume. I just like its consistency.
 
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Anyone Miss me? Here's my list for Bellossom/Plume. MUCH better than Gengar IMO

4-4-3/2 Bellossom/Vileplume UD
2-2 Sunflora
4 Spiritomb
1 Uxie
1 Azelf
1 Unown Q

4 Collector
4 Bebes
4 Elm
4 Oak
4 BTS
2 Palmer
2 Cynthia's feelings

4 Call
2 Warp
6 Grass

It works.
 
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Zangoose said:
Anyone Miss me? Here's my list for Bellossom/Plume. MUCH better than Gengar IMO

4-4-3/2 Bellossom/Vileplume UD
2-2 Sunflora
4 Spiritomb
1 Uxie
1 Azelf
1 Unown Q

4 Collector
4 Bebes
4 Elm
4 Oak
4 BTS
2 Palmer
2 Cynthia's feelings

4 Call
2 Warp
6 Grass

It works.
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I dont really like Sunflora that much, but if it works, then it works.
 
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Also that deck just got changed to this(not a full list, but only 3 trainers, rare candy, also odd is 3 copycat, which i feel will be just great next year)
2-1-2-1 Machamp LV.X(SF)
3-2-2-1-1 Gengar LV.X(SF-SF-PA-SF-PA)
2-1-2 Vileplume(LA-LA-UD)
1 Azelf(LA)
2-1 Uxie LV.X(LA)
1 Unown Q
3 Spiritomb(PA)
I honestly have NO clue if this will work will be testing vs. LuxChomp...
 
RE: The Storms ~ This format is ours! Getting ready for Battle Roads!

I'd go 3-1 Uxie. With 3 stage 2 lines, you need all the draw you can get,
 
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What is better to run in Gengar/ Vilplume deck? Vilplume 1-1-1 or 2-1-2?
 
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Neither. 2-2-2 is for BTS and Spiritomb consistency. You have less odds of having Gloom prized, so your odds of getting Plume is higher.
 
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I've been testing Vilegar a lot, and I think it can be a really good competitive deck. The Zen Blade thing is way too hard for the LuxChomp player to set up, and I run 3 Warp Energy and Interviewer's for Blaziken FB. I think this deck has serious potential to do very well.
 
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