Venusaur is utterly slow. It lower than Torterra due to needing not only Venusaur (Torterra), Sceptile and Claydol, you also need 2 Pokémon to add Special Conditions and you can't spread some damage on the bench, neither do you have room for Shaymin or do you have a sick Poké-Power like Luxray which is constant if your behind prizes, which will happen all games. Everyone who's hyping Venusaur, stop talking about "a good list and a good player can make it decent" because it's not true, and decent is not even good enough to win a BR. Yanmega is also a joke, right? Because if you think you are going to win with it you hould just stop playing. Your damage output is horrible; otherwise, you're looking into something like Shaymin, which makes you slow, or Leafeon; even with Leafeon your damage output is going to be slow.