Finished Mafia XLII: War of the Gods ~ GAME OVER ~ Town wins!
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That's the important question and throws back to the "There is no ideal lynch today" thing i said earlier. It's just really hard to decide if BB or Drac or me oder even NP (remember when that was a case in the beginning of the day? lol) would be the best option today.
BB at least defended himself not that badly. You did have a really good point against him with this: (which was pretty much right before i posted so i didnt really see it before)
But i don't know how much that makes him a lynch target tbh. Can YOU elaborate which (i think we can break it down to 4 main lynch targets to make it easier) of the 4 i mentioned earlier would be the ideal Lynch target?
I'd like everyone in the game to do that in a short lil case against what ever person. I think that would help structure the last hours we have left before the lynch
If you haven't noticed, you are on the lead, mate.
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No Quotes cause on mobile. Obviously im in the lead. But its a very Thin One and a lot of People haven't voted yet.
"Its typical for drac". I mean. Sure. But ist still stupid from my opinion. Not scumhunting because lol ist effort is Never great.
"You haven't been helpful so far either " what am i doing right Now?
"Your case gives More info" does it though? What info do you get from my lynch? Im actually curious. Because i haven't bonded with any One or anything.
Im actually Really curious why the f you still wanna Lynch me @scattered mind . Because as to most People have given reason to Why i shouldnt be lynched you havent give reason in Why i should.
I've done my part. Ball is in Your court
"Its typical for drac". I mean. Sure. But ist still stupid from my opinion. Not scumhunting because lol ist effort is Never great.
"You haven't been helpful so far either " what am i doing right Now?
"Your case gives More info" does it though? What info do you get from my lynch? Im actually curious. Because i haven't bonded with any One or anything.
Im actually Really curious why the f you still wanna Lynch me @scattered mind . Because as to most People have given reason to Why i shouldnt be lynched you havent give reason in Why i should.
I've done my part. Ball is in Your court
##UNVOTE:Mirdo
##VOTE:NP
Mirdo reacted in a very townie way, or at least that is what I got from repeatedly pressuring him. If he's scum, I would sure be surprised.
I vote NP on the same case from D1+him disappearing and letting discussion about 2 probable townies grow. Also, same info from Mirdo lynch will be gained from NP lynch and even more imo.
The case on bbninjas is not solid enough because of what I said about the allegedly scumslip.
GM Draclord is a late case that cannot be properly pursued today.
Thoughts, everyone.
##VOTE:NP
Mirdo reacted in a very townie way, or at least that is what I got from repeatedly pressuring him. If he's scum, I would sure be surprised.
I vote NP on the same case from D1+him disappearing and letting discussion about 2 probable townies grow. Also, same info from Mirdo lynch will be gained from NP lynch and even more imo.
The case on bbninjas is not solid enough because of what I said about the allegedly scumslip.
GM Draclord is a late case that cannot be properly pursued today.
Thoughts, everyone.
First things first, I disappeared because I was without WIFI or phone service for most of yesterday, which I didn't expect (blame TMobile for not being as reliable as they claim). When I finally got it, it was getting late and I had to sleep.
It's getting time to vote, and I think that mirdo's AtE is townie now that he's actually speaking (it reminds me a ton of last game). I don't like the multiple people think I'm town thing, because it sounds like the multiple people may be his scumbuddies. That's reaching a bit to hard, though, so it's not worth my vote.
PP had the potential slip, but Drac hasn't stood out to me. I'll wait until tomorrow before potentially wanting to vote for him.
Since I'm already getting a wagon which will probably get larger based on yesterday, my vote will most likely end up as self-preservation. I should be on again before deadline, so I'll vote then.
It's getting time to vote, and I think that mirdo's AtE is townie now that he's actually speaking (it reminds me a ton of last game). I don't like the multiple people think I'm town thing, because it sounds like the multiple people may be his scumbuddies. That's reaching a bit to hard, though, so it's not worth my vote.
PP had the potential slip, but Drac hasn't stood out to me. I'll wait until tomorrow before potentially wanting to vote for him.
Since I'm already getting a wagon which will probably get larger based on yesterday, my vote will most likely end up as self-preservation. I should be on again before deadline, so I'll vote then.
You simply can't rely on the hosts to sub him out or modkill him; this is especially true later in the game (which, of course, is not now; but important to note).
I think there might have been one or two instances were I discuss about the 'importance of spreading pressure'. I also did pressure during the day. You can't just say statements like this without the evidence to back it up - it's misleading.
Pressuring hasn't been my focus until later this day simply because I couldn't be bothered after spending the earlier irl days responding to your tunnel on me. Also because I sorta hit a dead end because a lot of players just weren't commenting on anything.
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Regarding mirdo, I don't really know what the case is about, tbh.
This.
He doesn't vote me - which he could have easily did out of self-pres (unless, of course, we're scumbuddies), instead voting Drac of all people, and he had some pretty decent posts to back it up. (Most had been said or indicated in the past, but they were mostly worded a bit differently.) His annoyance here seems absolutely genuine and justified. My read on mirdo just shot right up to 'town'.
Regarding Drac; there's the dodging/reasoning point, but then there's also things like his role that make me very uncertain about this lynch. So I definitely don't think it's a good lynch this Day.
Have you considered that the unanimous lack of productivity is largely because people are being apathetic, which would largely because I'm town and scum would love my lynch?
On that note, more townie points towards scattered and mirdo for voting/suggesting a new-ish lynch, since again, scum could (and proabably would) have just let me or mirdo get lynched. GM Drac did vote for mirdo instead of me, which is neutral, because it's something he'd do as town or as scum (see vote on simsands instead of Celever last game), since he generally would benefit from the QT/my role as either alignment.
This post is soooo unhelpful, beyond explaining your recent absence. >.>
It doesn't suggest a better lynch, nor even really indicate who you think is scum. The bolded indicates that you'll just vote anyone, and the fact that you're not even saying who you think is scum means that noone can actually follow the option up, and shows no attempt on your part to actually lynch someone who you think is scum. Huge red flag here.
I was thinking about it last night; NP could easily be an indie, since indies enjoy interacting with the game's 'new' mechanic.
Eitherway, ##UNVOTE ##VOTE: NP
The Drac/mirdo/bbn lynches all are bad Day 3 lynches imo. I would prefer to lynch an inactive likely-lurker such as IE though for reasons previously stated.
I don't think I did blame you nor did I mean to. I'm referring to the rest of the town being fairly apathetic.
Alright we getting close to deadline. For convienice i made a quick vote count:
GM Drac: 1 Vote (mirdo)
mirdo: 2 Votes (GM Drac and NP)
NP: 4 Votes (Cel, BB, SM, Rainy)
People who are not voting:
@Jadethepokemontrainer
@Ice Espeon
@mordacazir
@Camoclone (who is not avabile atm if i remember right)
I hope that the above 3 come in before the deathline and tell us what they think. Because i haven't seen much out of all of you anyway. I also can't remember the last post by @rainyman123 . You wanna give some thoughts? You put in your Vote quite early If i remember right.
As for what i think:
I don't know if im a fan of the NP lynch tbh. He does some shady things (aspecially at the beginning of the day and what BB pointed out here):
But i dunno. Is he actually scummy or just a bit apathetic.
That's what im thinking about.
Nonetheless. I guess this isn't really that bad of a lynch. We get some info out of it definitly. NP had a ton of interactions with a lot of people.
But right now imma keep my vote on GM. Possibly switch it if needed as we approch the deadline
GM Drac: 1 Vote (mirdo)
mirdo: 2 Votes (GM Drac and NP)
NP: 4 Votes (Cel, BB, SM, Rainy)
People who are not voting:
@Jadethepokemontrainer
@Ice Espeon
@mordacazir
@Camoclone (who is not avabile atm if i remember right)
I hope that the above 3 come in before the deathline and tell us what they think. Because i haven't seen much out of all of you anyway. I also can't remember the last post by @rainyman123 . You wanna give some thoughts? You put in your Vote quite early If i remember right.
As for what i think:
I don't know if im a fan of the NP lynch tbh. He does some shady things (aspecially at the beginning of the day and what BB pointed out here):
But i dunno. Is he actually scummy or just a bit apathetic.
That's what im thinking about.
Nonetheless. I guess this isn't really that bad of a lynch. We get some info out of it definitly. NP had a ton of interactions with a lot of people.
But right now imma keep my vote on GM. Possibly switch it if needed as we approch the deadline
Bb, the entire end of the post is just a scummy lynch shift onto me, based on not explained opinions. Your true colors are beginning to show.
@mirdo and
@Celever I think the bb lynch is now the best option, and just as achievable as the others. If we vote, we should be able to make it happen. I
##UNVOTE: mirdo
##VOTE: Bbninjas
My opinions were explained...? I didn't clarify that my vote had also got to do with the contradictions from Day 1, however, which is my bad.
You haven't actually given any solid evidence in voting me. You recite this 'scumslip', but I've explained this 'scumslip' throughout this day and you have seemingly ignored that.
This doesn't explain why you didn't say I'd be a good lynch in your initial post, which you could have easily done then considering that's what you've just done now.
This is a side comment that you are latching on. It is not a case whatsoever; my vote is based on the Day 1 contradictions, somewhat this issue w/the scumreads that I explained in my previous post, and you being a better lynch than myself, mirdo or GM Drac imo.
Why do you tag mirdo when he stated that he thought I was town?
You haven't actually given any solid evidence in voting me. You recite this 'scumslip', but I've explained this 'scumslip' throughout this day and you have seemingly ignored that.
Reads list:
Mirdo- Acting like he has in the past. Light town.
Cel- At this point, most probably a doctor. Fair town.
Bb- Has potentially slipped, and I didn't like his last post. Light scum.
IE- Just doesn't post. Neutral, leaning scum by virtue of player count.
Scattered- Probably saved from kill. Town.
Jade- Not giving me enough to tell much. Sometimes seems misguided, sometimes scummy. Neutral, leaning town.
Rainy- Tunneling me a ton, and doing very little else. Light scum.
Jesi- Who knows? Basically. I posts, which seems to line up more with anti-town Jesi. Light scum.
Morda- Just seeming like a townie. Fair town.
Drac- I just can't ever get a read on him. Neutral.
So you know, in my mind, fair is stronger than light.
Bb, I listened to your explanations, and had to agree with Celever. Your points were not about the reason I was thinking, and instead that people suspected you by yourself yesterday. You never brought up how much you pushed Lorde, which I considered the true point on why people might save you and kill scattered.
Tagged mirdo because he's my only hope right now.
Mirdo- Acting like he has in the past. Light town.
Cel- At this point, most probably a doctor. Fair town.
Bb- Has potentially slipped, and I didn't like his last post. Light scum.
IE- Just doesn't post. Neutral, leaning scum by virtue of player count.
Scattered- Probably saved from kill. Town.
Jade- Not giving me enough to tell much. Sometimes seems misguided, sometimes scummy. Neutral, leaning town.
Rainy- Tunneling me a ton, and doing very little else. Light scum.
Jesi- Who knows? Basically. I posts, which seems to line up more with anti-town Jesi. Light scum.
Morda- Just seeming like a townie. Fair town.
Drac- I just can't ever get a read on him. Neutral.
So you know, in my mind, fair is stronger than light.
Bb, I listened to your explanations, and had to agree with Celever. Your points were not about the reason I was thinking, and instead that people suspected you by yourself yesterday. You never brought up how much you pushed Lorde, which I considered the true point on why people might save you and kill scattered.
Tagged mirdo because he's my only hope right now.
Thing is: We have less than 30 minutes left (24 hours from the last vote count) And you'd need three more to tie up with youself and even 4 more to get a majority for BB.
So maybe either: Use this time and convince me / us super hard. Or give us info we can use for the next day without you.
So, if I'm following you right NP, you think I should be lynched because of:
- a potential scumslip (and you agree with Celever that my explanation wasn't good enough... what wasn't good enough about them?)
- you thought my last post was off (yet you never respond to where I addressed that in my following post)
- the reasons for which people suspected me Day 1 (yet they didn't really give reasons beyond 'gut feels' and 'bb and NP are scumbuddies')
- I pushed for lorde (and what is the problem with that? Pushing for town should only be scummy if the other option was scum. However, this tell doesn't fit with your mentality that you're town!)
There are major holes or lack of explanation in all of these points.
- a potential scumslip (and you agree with Celever that my explanation wasn't good enough... what wasn't good enough about them?)
- you thought my last post was off (yet you never respond to where I addressed that in my following post)
- the reasons for which people suspected me Day 1 (yet they didn't really give reasons beyond 'gut feels' and 'bb and NP are scumbuddies')
- I pushed for lorde (and what is the problem with that? Pushing for town should only be scummy if the other option was scum. However, this tell doesn't fit with your mentality that you're town!)
There are major holes or lack of explanation in all of these points.
Also @Celever I was going to ask; didn't you say something about NP's role interacting with yours? Why did you consider that point moot when you chose to vote NP over anyone else this Day?
If Cel switches his vote and you vote with me, it's a tie.
I have no role info that I can give you because I was blocked.
As for bb, he had a potential scumslip and has been reaching extremely/straw manning now that he's legitimately afraid he may be lynched.
Your last two points are not ones I used to say you were scum. That is why I found your explaination inadequate. Don't fake my argument to make it easier to defend against (this is a strawman, which is very scummy, and this in not the first time you've used it today (as Cel pointed out earlier)). Your scumslip defense was bad because you, like Celever said, latched on to a small quantity of posts. The Lorde push was the main reason you would be differentiated with scattered, not those few posts you kept pointing too.
As for how you addressed it, why did include the indie comment in your post without explanation? To me, it just seems like you're throwing arguments, hoping for one to stick.
Also, that vote was the contradiction from yesterday. It's just a distraction, and completely unnecessary.
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