P.DelSlayer said:Mitja said:Celebis secondary type is Grass...I don't think they'd get rid of it D:
Celebi doesn't need to be changed at all.
Yep. Both types are highly appropriate for it.
Wouldnt say the same for Jirachi tho.
P.DelSlayer said:Mitja said:Celebis secondary type is Grass...I don't think they'd get rid of it D:
Celebi doesn't need to be changed at all.
THANK YOU! Someone finally gets it. The secretiveness is very good for hype and later reception. Because, think about it, which would game would you be more likely to buy? One where all the plot, art, 'mons and their types, etc. are reveled months before the initial release? Or a game in which small fragments are reveled over time, creating fan speculation, keeping the majority of the game a surprise? What their doing is that once the hype for some newly released info dies down, they release more to spark the hype up again. Also, mentioning Reshiram, the same thing happened then is happening now. Xerneas and Sylveon's types are hard to pin down, so everyone automatically assumes that it is OMG TEH NEW FAIRY TYPE!!!1! Reshi and Zek's types only make sense if you calm down and think about it, I feel that the same thing will happen this generation as well. Didn't someone say that this generation is like the "evolution" of the Pokemon series as a whole? Also, I personally like that Nintendo are tantalizing use with small details occasionally. It is a lot more fun and interesting than just blurting out info constantly.PMJ said:Why not reveal? Because otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist and you wouldn't have signed up just to debate this topic. They obscured Reshiram's and Zekrom's types from us when they were first revealed, and everyone went nuts, claiming DARK AND LIGHT ZOMG.
Also, they are obscuring -everything- from us this gen. The only Pokemon whose types we know are the starters, and that's cause, well, they're starters. They've been the same since gen 1. No surprises there. They even claimed that Newtwo was a brand new Pokemon who just happened to look like Mewtwo; it wasn't until later that they said "okay, you got us, it's mewtwo." We don't even know if Mewtwo undergoes any type changes. Everything's a secret because hype is better than no hype.
Teal said:Reshiram's and Zekrom's types were secret for what, a month max maybe? Sylveon does not fit ANY type, and unlike with Reshiram they keep teasing us and asking us what type Sylveon is.
DorianBlack said:Eh...I think I'm about ready to place my bet on Sylveon getting a new type. It's still by no means a sure thing, and I'm not convinced that the type will apply to Xerneas too, as the rumor goes, but the sheer length of time Sylveon's been in existence now coupled with the abilities shown in the newest trailer make for some compelling evidence.
It's very true that Game Freak and TCPi could play up the mystery in order to generate hype even if there isn't some big revelation. But that argument forgets one thing: consumer trust. A huge publicity build-up with no exciting payoff alienates customers, who end up feeling used and will be less likely to maintain interest in whatever product is being hyped once the fervor dies down. Mystery does generate hype, and Game Freak and TCPi are clearly using that fact to their full advantage, but if all that suspense doesn't lead to a satisfying reveal, it'll backfire. Remember how disappointed we all were when the CoroCoro leak in March didn't have any info after all those rumors? That was just an unofficial hype build-up - a letdown here would be a lot worse.
I can definitely understand wanting to temper your expectations to avoid potential disappointment - I've done that plenty of times. But we've reached the point where either there's a big reveal waiting or TPCi has made a very uncharacteristic misstep, and I'm willing to bet on the first one.
(Just watch, now that I've said that, it'll turn out to be Bug-type or something like that. The universe loves to mess with me. : P )
A quick bit of research told me that Sylviidae is a family of birds and that sylphs are air spirits, and that nymph is often the the young immature life stage of some inveterate (insects), which makes Sylveon likely a bug or flying type. I know its German name is somehow diverted from faerie, but fairies often fly around and are sometimes associated with insects. Also, Sylveon is the lightest eeveelution to date, making it very fit for flying. Also, its form seems very aerodynamic, it doesn't any overly poofy fur on it, other than its stray cowlick. Its bows look like butterfly wings and its ribbons look vaguely like gusts of wind, yet another reference to the flying type.P.DelSlayer said:I have to say I'm starting to seriously consider that Hirobyte was being serious that Sylveon will be a new type.
Just look at it.
Sylveon is so unobvious with its type. Visually, every Eeveelution has screamed its type. The only types that I think of when I see Sylveon are Normal, and Fairy.
Same situation with naming. Every Eeveelution's name has clearly referred back to its type (although one could argue the umbra in Umbreon would imply Ghost more than Dark). In every language, Sylveon's name translations have some relation to fairies.
CyberCat5555 said:A quick bit of research told me that Sylviidae is a family of birds and that sylphs are air spirits, and that nymph is often the the young immature life stage of some inveterate (insects), which makes Sylveon likely a bug or flying type. I know its German name is somehow diverted from faerie, but fairies often fly around and are sometimes associated with insects.P.DelSlayer said:I have to say I'm starting to seriously consider that Hirobyte was being serious that Sylveon will be a new type.
Just look at it.
Sylveon is so unobvious with its type. Visually, every Eeveelution has screamed its type. The only types that I think of when I see Sylveon are Normal, and Fairy.
Same situation with naming. Every Eeveelution's name has clearly referred back to its type (although one could argue the umbra in Umbreon would imply Ghost more than Dark). In every language, Sylveon's name translations have some relation to fairies.
CyberCat5555 said:I know its German name is somehow diverted from faerie, but fairies often fly around and are sometimes associated with insects.
Mitja said:If it was a type like Bug or Flying...it would be as obvious as any of the previous ones.
But its not. The only thing it screams in design and name is fairy, but thats no type.
CyberCat5555 said:P.DelSlayer said:I have to say I'm starting to seriously consider that Hirobyte was being serious that Sylveon will be a new type.
Just look at it.
Sylveon is so unobvious with its type. Visually, every Eeveelution has screamed its type. The only types that I think of when I see Sylveon are Normal, and Fairy.
Same situation with naming. Every Eeveelution's name has clearly referred back to its type (although one could argue the umbra in Umbreon would imply Ghost more than Dark). In every language, Sylveon's name translations have some relation to fairies.
Also, I believe that it will evolve using that new "bonding" mechanic. What better to introduce a new mechanic than with a new eeveelution?
*random idea* To go with the DNA theme, could Sylveon's ribbons represent the actual double helix shape of a DNA strand (there are two strands and Sylveon has two ribbons (it looks like four, but the bow ties are in the middle of the ribbons, making it look like four ribbons))? Just throwing that idea out there...
Mitja said:Its not "somehow diverted". It IS directly the word for fairy itself.CyberCat5555 said:I know its German name is somehow diverted from faerie, but fairies often fly around and are sometimes associated with insects.
The english translation of it would be Fairyeon basically.
shitzon said:Mitja said:Its not "somehow diverted". It IS directly the word for fairy itself.
The english translation of it would be Fairyeon basically.
What you said is right, I just wanted to point out that the german name isn't only the direct word for fairy.
Fairy, in german, is Fee. Sylveon is named Feelinara. The syllable "lin" got nothing to do with fairies. This way, the german name sounds like "felin", which means "catlike". Don't know if this word is known in english. It's a little pun, the translators seemingly like those. If you would "translate" Fairyeon, it would be "Feea", "Feera", "Feena" or something, because the german ending for Eeveelutions is a plain "a".
One could argue that they put in this "lin" because it would sound stupid without it, but as I said it's a pun too.